That’s an interesting argument.  If I understand you correctly, I agree that the “genre of the character as a work is Superheroes”.  But I’m not convinced that the genre or nature of the character is summed up by the 374 Occupation field.  I certainly do not consider my own nature to be summed up as Librarians.  I am far more than that, and much of my nature would be described in 370, 372, 373, and others.  I would say that you need to examine all of the authority 3xx fields to begin to understand nature of a person or work.

 

While the nature of the character is Superheroes, I don’t think the 374 field is where we define the nature of the character.

 

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There's more work to be done on modeling fictitious characters as entities. I'd argue that fictional characters have important aspects as works, not just as persons, and that the genre of the character as a work is Superheroes. 

 

Stephen

 

On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 2:43 PM, McDonald, Stephen <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

I think I agree.  For those few characters who make a paying profession out of their superpowers, their profession might be better labeled “Soldiers of fortune”, “Assassins”, “Bodyguards”, “Spies”, “Private investigators”, etc.

 

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I agree. To my mind "Heros" and "Superheroes" are descriptions of status. One isn't employed (for fun or profit) as a hero or superhero; one simply is a a hero/superhero. I think those terms belong in 368 fields just as terms such as Political prisoners and Holocaust survivors, and Refugees belong in 368.
Nancy

On 8/8/2018 9:12 AM, Robert Maxwell wrote:

I$B!G(Bve generally used 368 for $B!H(BHeroes$B!I(B though I see plenty of the $B!H(BHeroes$B!I(B term recorded in 374 in the file. It also looks like $B!H(BSuperheroes$B!I(B has been recorded in both fields (and at least once, incorrectly, in 372). $B!H(BSuperheroes$B!I(B seems a little more like an occupation (374) than $B!H(BHeroes$B!I(B, but I think I$B!G(Bd use 368 for both $B!H(BHeroes$B!I(B and $B!H(BSuperheroes$B!I(B.

 

Bob

 

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Hi Collective Wisdom,

 

I$B!G(Bm establishing the name of a superhero.  I$B!G(Bm wondering where to record the attribute that the person is a superhero.  In LCSH we have the heading Superheroes.  In NARs for individual superheroes, that has been recorded in either 374 (profession/occupation) or 368 $c (other attributes of person or corporate body).

 

RDA 9.16.1.1 has this definition: profession or occupation$B"'(B: A person's vocation or avocation

 

RDA 9.6.1.1 has this definition: other designation associated with person$B"'(B: A term other than a title that is associated with a person

 

Merriam-Webster$B!G(Bs online dictionary has these definitions:

 

vocation 2 a : the work in which a person is employed : occupation  b : the persons engaged in a particular occupation

 

avocation 1 : a subordinate occupation pursued in addition to one's vocation especially for enjoyment : hobby   2 : customary employment : vocation

 

Is being a superhero a vocation or avocation?  My inclination is that it is not, and I should record Superheroes in 368 $c:

 

368 ## $c Superheroes $2 lcsh

 

Please discuss!

 

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