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According to the recently posted ARSC directory, there are 800 members listed...several still from our first 10 years! *Here is a directory of Various Audio, Film, Recording organizations dealing with Preservation of Sound: (more than just the seven I was thinking of.) * ** *https://www.loc.gov/programs/national-film-preservation-board/resources/film-preservation-and-cultural-organizations/* ** * AV Think Tank**https://www.beeldengeluid.nl/en/knowledge/hub/av-think-tank <https://www.beeldengeluid.nl/en/knowledge/hub/av-think-tank>* *this is the group trying to be an umbrella for those in the directory above. <https://www.beeldengeluid.nl/en/knowledge/hub/av-think-tank>* ** *Here’s a listing of all the research projects going on:* ** *https://www.loc.gov/preservation/scientists/projects/index.html* ** * ARSC, IASA, AES and others are in the directory above.* ** *Also: Am. Assoc of Public Broadcasting (AAPB) http://americanarchive.org/ not listed in the directory yet.* On 9/16/2018 11:40 AM, Gary Gottlieb wrote: > Maybe at some point they will be. Facebook, for all its downside, is a > great recruiting tool. > > > Gary Gottlieb > Co-Chair, AES Historical Committee, DC Section Secretary, and Eastern > Region Vice President Elect, Audio Engineering Society > Executive Director,St. Louis Audio Project > http://stlaudio.org/ > Author, Shaping Sound in the Studio and Beyond, Recording on the Go & How > Does It Sound Now? (Winner of the 2010 ARSC Award for Excellence in > Historical Recorded Sound Research) > http://stlaudio.org/gottlieb/ > > On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 2:20 PM, Gary A. Galo <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> It would be a lot more solid if they were all members! >> >> Best, >> Gary >> >> ____________________________ >> >> Gary Galo >> Audio Engineer Emeritus >> The Crane School of Music >> SUNY at Potsdam, NY 13676 >> >> "Great art presupposes the alert mind of the educated listener." >> Arnold Schoenberg >> >> "A true artist doesn't want to be admired, he wants to be believed." >> Igor Markevitch >> >> "If you design an audio system based on the premise that nothing is >> audible, >> on that system nothing will be audible." >> G. Galo >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List [mailto: >> [log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Burgess, Scott >> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 1:40 PM >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] [EXT] Re: [ARSCLIST] ARSC Facebook Group? >> >> Gary, how many subscribe to this email list? 2500 sounds like a pretty >> solid following for a specialty FaceBook page like that. And the sort of >> things that are getting posted there don’t detract from this list at all, >> IMHO. >> >> Scott >> ---- >> Scott Burgess | Manager of Recording Labs and Live Sound >> Dept of Music and Entertainment Industry Studies >> University of Colorado Denver >> 303-315-7462 (office – please note new phone number!) >> [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> | >> cam.ucdenver.edu<http://cam.ucdenver.edu/> >> >> [cid:443432E4-D3BB-4D13-828A-4D2AE402E939] >> >> On Sep 16, 2018, at 11:21 AM, Gary Gottlieb <[log in to unmask]< >> mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: >> >> David is correct, there is already a facebook page, but there are only >> about 2,500 people following it. >> >> Gary Gottlieb >> Co-Chair, AES Historical Committee, DC Section Secretary, and Eastern >> Region Vice President Elect, Audio Engineering Society >> Executive Director,St. Louis Audio Project >> http://stlaudio.org/ >> Author, Shaping Sound in the Studio and Beyond, Recording on the Go & How >> Does It Sound Now? (Winner of the 2010 ARSC Award for Excellence in >> Historical Recorded Sound Research) >> http://stlaudio.org/gottlieb/ >> >> On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 12:59 PM, David Glasser <[log in to unmask] >> wrote: >> >> I hate to break it to everyone, but there already is an ARSC Facebook: >> created in 2009, and appears to be fairly active. >> >> David Glasser >> Chief Engineer >> >> 303-247-9035 >> >> >> >> >> >> <http://www.airshowmastering.com/> >> >> >> >> <http://www.airshowmastering.com/> >> On Sep 16, 2018, at 10:23 AM, Dennis Rooney <[log in to unmask]> >> wrote: >> >> In reply to John Schroth's recent post re the >> to-FaceBook-or-not-to-FaceBook question: >> >> What tender blossoms some of his respondents must be. The ARSC listserv >> is >> a community of adults which shares a number of common interests. Why >> wouldn't the questions or comments of a younger person or one "from a >> different demographic" be greeted by anything other than courtesy? Yes, >> some extraordinarily naïve questions have been received on the list, but >> I >> have not noted hostility to that naïveté but rather a desire to answer >> helpfully. Younger people should always be welcomed but not by a >> diminution >> in the quality of our communication. I personally do not approve of >> anything that dilutes the community. Therefore, I do not welcome the >> Facebook suggestion. >> >> DDR >> >> On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 11:04 PM John Schroth < >> [log in to unmask]> >> wrote: >> >> Hi Richard, Steve and the rest of the ARSC community. >> >> I have gotten quite a number of personal replies to my post stating that >> we should have a facebook page. These were people who were not >> comfortable with replying to my post on the ARSC list-serve for the >> whole community to see. Two examples: >> >> "THANK YOU, John! I think that's the whole point of having another >> platform for discussion-- to reach individuals of different demographics >> who might not yet know about us who might be interested in joining". >> >> "Thank you, thank you, and thank you" >> >> These people and all the other direct replies were from younger people >> who really felt that a facebook page was important. Most likely these >> people followed the ARSC list-serve but felt uncomfortable posting what >> they really felt about a facebook page, because they were new to the >> community, or followed our list-serve because of the valuable >> information they gained from it, but didn't feel comfortable making a >> comment because of all the long-time experienced participants to the >> list-serve that did not like facebook. They might have even been scared >> of getting criticized if they supported a facebook page publicly. I >> totally get that. >> >> Here's a perfect example that I shared with these people..... >> >> We have an exchange program here, where students studying at the George >> Eastman Museum's Film Preservation Program, work with my company part >> time. Most of them are interested in audio preservation as well. Most of >> them know of and follow AMIA. None to date have heard of ARSC when they >> first started working here. All of them use and follow facebook on a >> regular basis. If the George Eastman Museum's Selznick School facebook >> page "liked" the ARSC page, there's an immediate connection that all >> these students could make with ARSC. All of them since working at our >> place, now follow ARSC quietly. >> >> That's just an example....... >> >> Many who are getting to know ARSC - many of them younger people or >> people who are just starting out in audio preservation or collecting, >> may not be comfortable posting to the list-serve. It's daunting. Having >> a facebook page where these people could connect, make friends, share >> thoughts and ideas with each other directly, may spur them to becoming >> more involved with the ARSC organization. >> >> I joined ARSC and AMIA at about the same time. I was very lucky to have >> both ARSC and AMIA both come to Rochester, NY for their annual >> conference within a year of each other. I greatly respect AMIA but >> honestly, the people at the ARSC conference were much more open and >> welcoming. Steve Smolian - you asked me to join your table for both a >> lunch and a dinner without even knowing me. I will never forget that. >> You were warm, friendly and made me feel a part of the group. For people >> who are younger, an ARSC facebook page goes a long way to doing that >> same thing. Steve, I'm totally in your camp. I would rather live in the >> world that I grew up in, without all of this computer driven social >> media "crap". But this is the world we live in. You have the chance to >> become "facebook friends" with someone younger you can inspire. A >> portion of their world includes social media and they might never >> connect with you without something like facebook. You have the chance to >> effect young people you would never have the chance to connect with, if >> it wasn't for something like facebook. I can see someone new to ARSC >> becoming your facebook friend, then asking you a question directly >> because they were not confident enough to post the question for all to >> see on the ARSC list-serve. You could encourage them to post their >> question to the list-serve so that others could benefit by their >> question and explain that you have their back, in case someone made a >> derogatory comment on their post. >> >> In my world, I plan to be doing what I do for the next 10-15 years, then >> I'm done. I love teaching young people how to work with other media >> formats besides motion picture film. If students who work at my place >> can take with them the unique intricacies and challenges of preserving >> analog audio formats, they pick up skills and knowledge which gives them >> an appreciation of the medium. They might even play an important role in >> helping to preserve a piece of audio history in the future. I think this >> is one of the goals that ARSC is ultimately all about. I think that >> facebook might help bridge that gap between the "old school people" and >> future generations that we pass our knowledge on to. >> >> From one of the members who loves the "old school" and is trying my >> best to assimilate with the "new school" as best I can. >> >> Kind Regards, >> >> John Schroth >> >> -- >> Media Transfer Service, LLC >> High Quality Conversion Of: >> Video - Audio - Motion Picture - Still Image >> Phone: 585-248-4908 >> Web: www.mediatransferservice.com >> Find out what's new at MTS: >> http://www.mediatransferservice.com/whats%20new.htm >> >> >> On 9/15/2018 8:15 PM, Richard L. Hess wrote: >> Hi, Steve, >> >> I understand your concerns about Facebook, but, as I think I stated >> previously, there is a whole group of people who, for whatever >> reasons, aren't on the ARSC List. Hopefully some of us who do take >> part in the ARSC Facebook presence, should it come to pass, will be >> able to reach those people and perhaps bring them into the fold of >> ARSCLIST as well for the more complete answer. >> >> It is organizational outreach, and I am as guilty as the next person >> of limiting my organizational involvement based on attempting to >> balance my priorities. >> >> I try to give in some way or the other to both ARSC and AES, as well >> as the audio archiving community in general. >> >> Every pathway is imperfect, we must try to make use of pathways that >> can reach the most people. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Richard >> >> >> >> >> On 2018-09-15 7:47 PM, Steven Smolian wrote: >> Speaking (well, typing) for myself, I fear the loss of the ARSC list >> participants' cumulated skills and knowledge if we allow a facebook >> presence with our imprimatur lacking some of these participants. >> Incomplete info in often leads to misinformation out. Willfully >> ignoring the path to otherwise available information by taking an >> easier route that potentially avoids some of it- well, there are >> enough examples of that in daily life. It's why we have refereed >> journals. >> >> >> >> -- >> Media Transfer Service, LLC >> High Quality Conversion Of: >> Video - Audio - Motion Picture - Still Image >> Phone: 585-248-4908 >> Web: www.mediatransferservice.com >> Find out what's new at MTS: >> http://www.mediatransferservice.com/whats%20new.htm >> >> >> >> -- >> 1006 Langer Way >> Delray Beach, FL 33483 >> 561.265.2976 >> >> >> > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > https://www.avg.com >