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Interesting to see how large the kickback against Zuckerberg, Inc. has grown among ARSC members using social media, which this list-serve is.

Alex McGehee

> On Sep 12, 2018, at 6:05 PM, Huff, David <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> Both Facebook proper and its messaging system have apps that millions of people use on their phones every day. I can’t remember the last time I logged into either one. 
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> David Huff, M.M.
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> University of North Texas
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>> On Sep 12, 2018, at 4:50 PM, Paul T. Jackson <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
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>> I pointed out in my survey that using Facebook adds to the process of communicating; one gets an email notification, one clicks, and signs into facebook, one clicks on messenger to send a message, sometimes it takes a while to load, sometimes one has to sign into messenger, (if those sending a note use messenger) and then you can read what was sent.
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>> Adding to such a process is not efficient, when you can read email posts on your phone directly. don't have to go anywhere else.
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>> My only use of facebook is keeping up with friends and family who don't otherwise communicate with me directly.
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>>> On 9/12/2018 1:32 PM, Alex McGehee wrote:
>>> But we are having this discussion. That’s part of what ARSC’s list-serve does. Quite an impressive list of organizations you’ve compiled. Mom always told me, “just because everyone else does it,” was not an acceptable answer.
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>>> Regards,
>>> Alex McGehee
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 12, 2018, at 4:21 PM, David Glasser <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>>>> Reality check: SMPTE, AES, NARAS, Union of Concerned Scientists, most major and minor universities, FEMA, National Academy of Sciences, NASA, AMPAS, Society of Broadcast Engineers, National Kennel Club, PBS, NPR and thousands of other businesses, organizations, and professional societies all have a presence on Facebook. I can’t believe we are even having this discussion.
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>>>> David Glasser
>>>> Chief Engineer
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>>>> 303-247-9035
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>>>>> On Sep 12, 2018, at 2:05 PM, Alex McGehee <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
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>>>>> Right on, Ron Roscoe. “Facebook is a time sink.”
>>>>> The committees and leadership of ARSC do an absolutely terrific job. Long hours. No pay. Many thanks to all of you.
>>>>> However, Some ARSC members are trying to reduce (difficult to eliminate) on-line surveillance systems that use personal data to make money for gazillionaires. I’ll gladly tell you anything you want to know about the movies I watch and my unusual interest in women’s undergarments, but first, what’s it worth to you? Free, is the wrong answer.
>>>>> ARSC forums are a great way for members to stay in touch, for leadership to keep an ear to the ground, but please, can’t we find an avenue other than Facebook. I’ll bet a survey would show a surprising number of ARSC members who don’t go near the thing. We don’t have pictures of grandchildren we want to share with the world!
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>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Alex McGehee
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 12, 2018, at 10:35 AM, Lou Judson <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
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>>>>>> Some of us don’t use those things.
>>>>>> <L>
>>>>>> Lou Judson
>>>>>> Intuitive Audio
>>>>>> 415-883-2689
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>>>>>>> On Sep 12, 2018, at 7:31 AM, Mason Vander Lugt <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
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>>>>>>> Hi ARSC, the Online Media Committee is looking into the idea of creating a discussion group on Facebook, and would like your (ARSC member) input about the possibility. In short, a "Group", in Facebook terms, functions more like a web forum, and would not replace our existing Facebook "Page", which is designed more for ARSC to communicate with members and the public (but, to a lesser extent, supports user submissions).
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>>>>>>> For examples, you can look at existing Facebook groups for similar organizations:
>>>>>>> AMIA (https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2F76820094560&amp;data=01%7C01%7CDavid.Huff%40UNT.EDU%7Cfa8291e6de414429ff3508d618f9bf2f%7C70de199207c6480fa318a1afcba03983%7C0&amp;sdata=bZeJ9%2BWjoUwu7w4b6JxPjDyuOBw6L5mITdfhEYNP1YE%3D&amp;reserved=0 <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2F76820094560&amp;data=01%7C01%7CDavid.Huff%40UNT.EDU%7Cfa8291e6de414429ff3508d618f9bf2f%7C70de199207c6480fa318a1afcba03983%7C0&amp;sdata=bZeJ9%2BWjoUwu7w4b6JxPjDyuOBw6L5mITdfhEYNP1YE%3D&amp;reserved=0>)
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>>>>>>> AES (https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2FAudioEngineeringSoc&amp;data=01%7C01%7CDavid.Huff%40UNT.EDU%7Cfa8291e6de414429ff3508d618f9bf2f%7C70de199207c6480fa318a1afcba03983%7C0&amp;sdata=8z%2BHaBtMXl3v1bmD9LULY7ixD%2Ff03xJqTpb%2FrKqUyYQ%3D&amp;reserved=0 <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgroups%2FAudioEngineeringSoc&amp;data=01%7C01%7CDavid.Huff%40UNT.EDU%7Cfa8291e6de414429ff3508d618f9bf2f%7C70de199207c6480fa318a1afcba03983%7C0&amp;sdata=8z%2BHaBtMXl3v1bmD9LULY7ixD%2Ff03xJqTpb%2FrKqUyYQ%3D&amp;reserved=0>)
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>>>>>>> We have created an anonymous 5-question survey on Google forms, link below. Please take a moment to complete it to let us know how you feel about the idea. The OMC will discuss the results at our meeting later this month and will update here after we've had a chance to process results and weigh options. If you would like more information about what such a group would entail, feel free to write me and/or Andrew Hansbrough ([log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>).
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>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>> Mason Vander Lugt and the Online Media Committee
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> P.S. if you are on Facebook but aren't yet following the official ARSC page, check it out! - https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Farscaudio%2F&amp;data=01%7C01%7CDavid.Huff%40UNT.EDU%7Cfa8291e6de414429ff3508d618f9bf2f%7C70de199207c6480fa318a1afcba03983%7C0&amp;sdata=5MMd3w%2BjRZ9YlMZ3Q0QnJL4CnDkn61xTX7GfmcVRP9k%3D&amp;reserved=0 <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Farscaudio%2F&amp;data=01%7C01%7CDavid.Huff%40UNT.EDU%7Cfa8291e6de414429ff3508d618f9bf2f%7C70de199207c6480fa318a1afcba03983%7C0&amp;sdata=5MMd3w%2BjRZ9YlMZ3Q0QnJL4CnDkn61xTX7GfmcVRP9k%3D&amp;reserved=0>
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