In reply to John Schroth's recent post re the to-FaceBook-or-not-to-FaceBook question: What tender blossoms some of his respondents must be. The ARSC listserv is a community of adults which shares a number of common interests. Why wouldn't the questions or comments of a younger person or one "from a different demographic" be greeted by anything other than courtesy? Yes, some extraordinarily naïve questions have been received on the list, but I have not noted hostility to that naïveté but rather a desire to answer helpfully. Younger people should always be welcomed but not by a diminution in the quality of our communication. I personally do not approve of anything that dilutes the community. Therefore, I do not welcome the Facebook suggestion. DDR On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 11:04 PM John Schroth <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Hi Richard, Steve and the rest of the ARSC community. > > I have gotten quite a number of personal replies to my post stating that > we should have a facebook page. These were people who were not > comfortable with replying to my post on the ARSC list-serve for the > whole community to see. Two examples: > > "THANK YOU, John! I think that's the whole point of having another > platform for discussion-- to reach individuals of different demographics > who might not yet know about us who might be interested in joining". > > "Thank you, thank you, and thank you" > > These people and all the other direct replies were from younger people > who really felt that a facebook page was important. Most likely these > people followed the ARSC list-serve but felt uncomfortable posting what > they really felt about a facebook page, because they were new to the > community, or followed our list-serve because of the valuable > information they gained from it, but didn't feel comfortable making a > comment because of all the long-time experienced participants to the > list-serve that did not like facebook. They might have even been scared > of getting criticized if they supported a facebook page publicly. I > totally get that. > > Here's a perfect example that I shared with these people..... > > We have an exchange program here, where students studying at the George > Eastman Museum's Film Preservation Program, work with my company part > time. Most of them are interested in audio preservation as well. Most of > them know of and follow AMIA. None to date have heard of ARSC when they > first started working here. All of them use and follow facebook on a > regular basis. If the George Eastman Museum's Selznick School facebook > page "liked" the ARSC page, there's an immediate connection that all > these students could make with ARSC. All of them since working at our > place, now follow ARSC quietly. > > That's just an example....... > > Many who are getting to know ARSC - many of them younger people or > people who are just starting out in audio preservation or collecting, > may not be comfortable posting to the list-serve. It's daunting. Having > a facebook page where these people could connect, make friends, share > thoughts and ideas with each other directly, may spur them to becoming > more involved with the ARSC organization. > > I joined ARSC and AMIA at about the same time. I was very lucky to have > both ARSC and AMIA both come to Rochester, NY for their annual > conference within a year of each other. I greatly respect AMIA but > honestly, the people at the ARSC conference were much more open and > welcoming. Steve Smolian - you asked me to join your table for both a > lunch and a dinner without even knowing me. I will never forget that. > You were warm, friendly and made me feel a part of the group. For people > who are younger, an ARSC facebook page goes a long way to doing that > same thing. Steve, I'm totally in your camp. I would rather live in the > world that I grew up in, without all of this computer driven social > media "crap". But this is the world we live in. You have the chance to > become "facebook friends" with someone younger you can inspire. A > portion of their world includes social media and they might never > connect with you without something like facebook. You have the chance to > effect young people you would never have the chance to connect with, if > it wasn't for something like facebook. I can see someone new to ARSC > becoming your facebook friend, then asking you a question directly > because they were not confident enough to post the question for all to > see on the ARSC list-serve. You could encourage them to post their > question to the list-serve so that others could benefit by their > question and explain that you have their back, in case someone made a > derogatory comment on their post. > > In my world, I plan to be doing what I do for the next 10-15 years, then > I'm done. I love teaching young people how to work with other media > formats besides motion picture film. If students who work at my place > can take with them the unique intricacies and challenges of preserving > analog audio formats, they pick up skills and knowledge which gives them > an appreciation of the medium. They might even play an important role in > helping to preserve a piece of audio history in the future. I think this > is one of the goals that ARSC is ultimately all about. I think that > facebook might help bridge that gap between the "old school people" and > future generations that we pass our knowledge on to. > > From one of the members who loves the "old school" and is trying my > best to assimilate with the "new school" as best I can. > > Kind Regards, > > John Schroth > > -- > Media Transfer Service, LLC > High Quality Conversion Of: > Video - Audio - Motion Picture - Still Image > Phone: 585-248-4908 > Web: www.mediatransferservice.com > Find out what's new at MTS: > http://www.mediatransferservice.com/whats%20new.htm > > > On 9/15/2018 8:15 PM, Richard L. Hess wrote: > > Hi, Steve, > > > > I understand your concerns about Facebook, but, as I think I stated > > previously, there is a whole group of people who, for whatever > > reasons, aren't on the ARSC List. Hopefully some of us who do take > > part in the ARSC Facebook presence, should it come to pass, will be > > able to reach those people and perhaps bring them into the fold of > > ARSCLIST as well for the more complete answer. > > > > It is organizational outreach, and I am as guilty as the next person > > of limiting my organizational involvement based on attempting to > > balance my priorities. > > > > I try to give in some way or the other to both ARSC and AES, as well > > as the audio archiving community in general. > > > > Every pathway is imperfect, we must try to make use of pathways that > > can reach the most people. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Richard > > > > > > > > > > On 2018-09-15 7:47 PM, Steven Smolian wrote: > >> Speaking (well, typing) for myself, I fear the loss of the ARSC list > >> participants' cumulated skills and knowledge if we allow a facebook > >> presence with our imprimatur lacking some of these participants. > >> Incomplete info in often leads to misinformation out. Willfully > >> ignoring the path to otherwise available information by taking an > >> easier route that potentially avoids some of it- well, there are > >> enough examples of that in daily life. It's why we have refereed > >> journals. > >> > > > > -- > Media Transfer Service, LLC > High Quality Conversion Of: > Video - Audio - Motion Picture - Still Image > Phone: 585-248-4908 > Web: www.mediatransferservice.com > Find out what's new at MTS: > http://www.mediatransferservice.com/whats%20new.htm > -- 1006 Langer Way Delray Beach, FL 33483 561.265.2976