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Hi David-I popped over to the ARSC Facebook page, and I agree, it looks pretty active. The genie is out of the bottle. I have had a FB account for about 10 years now. I didn't give a picture, my birth date is wrong, and there is no other information. I also have no friends. On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 1:01 PM David Glasser <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > I hate to break it to everyone, but there already is an ARSC Facebook: > created in 2009, and appears to be fairly active. > > David Glasser > Chief Engineer > > 303-247-9035 > > > > > > <http://www.airshowmastering.com/> > > > > <http://www.airshowmastering.com/> > > On Sep 16, 2018, at 10:23 AM, Dennis Rooney <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > > > > In reply to John Schroth's recent post re the > > to-FaceBook-or-not-to-FaceBook question: > > > > What tender blossoms some of his respondents must be. The ARSC listserv > is > > a community of adults which shares a number of common interests. Why > > wouldn't the questions or comments of a younger person or one "from a > > different demographic" be greeted by anything other than courtesy? Yes, > > some extraordinarily naïve questions have been received on the list, but > I > > have not noted hostility to that naïveté but rather a desire to answer > > helpfully. Younger people should always be welcomed but not by a > diminution > > in the quality of our communication. I personally do not approve of > > anything that dilutes the community. Therefore, I do not welcome the > > Facebook suggestion. > > > > DDR > > > > On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 11:04 PM John Schroth < > [log in to unmask]> > > wrote: > > > >> Hi Richard, Steve and the rest of the ARSC community. > >> > >> I have gotten quite a number of personal replies to my post stating that > >> we should have a facebook page. These were people who were not > >> comfortable with replying to my post on the ARSC list-serve for the > >> whole community to see. Two examples: > >> > >> "THANK YOU, John! I think that's the whole point of having another > >> platform for discussion-- to reach individuals of different demographics > >> who might not yet know about us who might be interested in joining". > >> > >> "Thank you, thank you, and thank you" > >> > >> These people and all the other direct replies were from younger people > >> who really felt that a facebook page was important. Most likely these > >> people followed the ARSC list-serve but felt uncomfortable posting what > >> they really felt about a facebook page, because they were new to the > >> community, or followed our list-serve because of the valuable > >> information they gained from it, but didn't feel comfortable making a > >> comment because of all the long-time experienced participants to the > >> list-serve that did not like facebook. They might have even been scared > >> of getting criticized if they supported a facebook page publicly. I > >> totally get that. > >> > >> Here's a perfect example that I shared with these people..... > >> > >> We have an exchange program here, where students studying at the George > >> Eastman Museum's Film Preservation Program, work with my company part > >> time. Most of them are interested in audio preservation as well. Most of > >> them know of and follow AMIA. None to date have heard of ARSC when they > >> first started working here. All of them use and follow facebook on a > >> regular basis. If the George Eastman Museum's Selznick School facebook > >> page "liked" the ARSC page, there's an immediate connection that all > >> these students could make with ARSC. All of them since working at our > >> place, now follow ARSC quietly. > >> > >> That's just an example....... > >> > >> Many who are getting to know ARSC - many of them younger people or > >> people who are just starting out in audio preservation or collecting, > >> may not be comfortable posting to the list-serve. It's daunting. Having > >> a facebook page where these people could connect, make friends, share > >> thoughts and ideas with each other directly, may spur them to becoming > >> more involved with the ARSC organization. > >> > >> I joined ARSC and AMIA at about the same time. I was very lucky to have > >> both ARSC and AMIA both come to Rochester, NY for their annual > >> conference within a year of each other. I greatly respect AMIA but > >> honestly, the people at the ARSC conference were much more open and > >> welcoming. Steve Smolian - you asked me to join your table for both a > >> lunch and a dinner without even knowing me. I will never forget that. > >> You were warm, friendly and made me feel a part of the group. For people > >> who are younger, an ARSC facebook page goes a long way to doing that > >> same thing. Steve, I'm totally in your camp. I would rather live in the > >> world that I grew up in, without all of this computer driven social > >> media "crap". But this is the world we live in. You have the chance to > >> become "facebook friends" with someone younger you can inspire. A > >> portion of their world includes social media and they might never > >> connect with you without something like facebook. You have the chance to > >> effect young people you would never have the chance to connect with, if > >> it wasn't for something like facebook. I can see someone new to ARSC > >> becoming your facebook friend, then asking you a question directly > >> because they were not confident enough to post the question for all to > >> see on the ARSC list-serve. You could encourage them to post their > >> question to the list-serve so that others could benefit by their > >> question and explain that you have their back, in case someone made a > >> derogatory comment on their post. > >> > >> In my world, I plan to be doing what I do for the next 10-15 years, then > >> I'm done. I love teaching young people how to work with other media > >> formats besides motion picture film. If students who work at my place > >> can take with them the unique intricacies and challenges of preserving > >> analog audio formats, they pick up skills and knowledge which gives them > >> an appreciation of the medium. They might even play an important role in > >> helping to preserve a piece of audio history in the future. I think this > >> is one of the goals that ARSC is ultimately all about. I think that > >> facebook might help bridge that gap between the "old school people" and > >> future generations that we pass our knowledge on to. > >> > >> From one of the members who loves the "old school" and is trying my > >> best to assimilate with the "new school" as best I can. > >> > >> Kind Regards, > >> > >> John Schroth > >> > >> -- > >> Media Transfer Service, LLC > >> High Quality Conversion Of: > >> Video - Audio - Motion Picture - Still Image > >> Phone: 585-248-4908 > >> Web: www.mediatransferservice.com > >> Find out what's new at MTS: > >> http://www.mediatransferservice.com/whats%20new.htm > >> > >> > >> On 9/15/2018 8:15 PM, Richard L. Hess wrote: > >>> Hi, Steve, > >>> > >>> I understand your concerns about Facebook, but, as I think I stated > >>> previously, there is a whole group of people who, for whatever > >>> reasons, aren't on the ARSC List. Hopefully some of us who do take > >>> part in the ARSC Facebook presence, should it come to pass, will be > >>> able to reach those people and perhaps bring them into the fold of > >>> ARSCLIST as well for the more complete answer. > >>> > >>> It is organizational outreach, and I am as guilty as the next person > >>> of limiting my organizational involvement based on attempting to > >>> balance my priorities. > >>> > >>> I try to give in some way or the other to both ARSC and AES, as well > >>> as the audio archiving community in general. > >>> > >>> Every pathway is imperfect, we must try to make use of pathways that > >>> can reach the most people. > >>> > >>> Cheers, > >>> > >>> Richard > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On 2018-09-15 7:47 PM, Steven Smolian wrote: > >>>> Speaking (well, typing) for myself, I fear the loss of the ARSC list > >>>> participants' cumulated skills and knowledge if we allow a facebook > >>>> presence with our imprimatur lacking some of these participants. > >>>> Incomplete info in often leads to misinformation out. Willfully > >>>> ignoring the path to otherwise available information by taking an > >>>> easier route that potentially avoids some of it- well, there are > >>>> enough examples of that in daily life. It's why we have refereed > >>>> journals. > >>>> > >>> > >> > >> -- > >> Media Transfer Service, LLC > >> High Quality Conversion Of: > >> Video - Audio - Motion Picture - Still Image > >> Phone: 585-248-4908 > >> Web: www.mediatransferservice.com > >> Find out what's new at MTS: > >> http://www.mediatransferservice.com/whats%20new.htm > >> > > > > > > -- > > 1006 Langer Way > > Delray Beach, FL 33483 > > 561.265.2976 > -- Frank B Strauss, DMD