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You guys are good!  You found things the Internet Archive has not
finished yet.

The Internet Archive is working on archiving radio, but is not done yet.

-brewster



On 9/25/18 7:51 AM, CJB wrote:
> Thanks guys. This is driving me mad!!!
>
> I search for "bbc radio 4 extra"
>
> https://archive.org/search.php?query=bbc%20radio%204%20extra
>
> I get listings displaying audio wave forms.
>
> I click on one, e.g.
>
> Radio Active : BBC Radio 4 Extra : August 11, 2016 08:30AM-09:00AM BST
>
> https://archive.org/details/BBC_Radio_4_Extra_20160811_073000_Radio_Active
>
> This displays a message:
>
> There Is No Preview Available For This Item
>
> This item does not appear to have any files that can be experienced on
> Archive.org. Please download files in this item to interact with them
> on your computer.
> Show all files
>
> I click on [Show all files]
>
> https://archive.org/download/BBC_Radio_4_Extra_20160811_073000_Radio_Active
>
> This then displays
>
> Files for BBC_Radio_4_Extra_20160811_073000_Radio_Active
>
> Files marked with lock are not available for download.
>
> Name	Last modified	Size	Status
> Go to parent directory	
> BBC_Radio_4_Extra_20160811_073000_Radio_Active.afpk	11-Aug-2016
> 08:05	332.2K	lock
> BBC_Radio_4_Extra_20160811_073000_Radio_Active.asr.js	16-Aug-2016
> 07:00	268.5K	lock
> BBC_Radio_4_Extra_20160811_073000_Radio_Active.asr.srt	16-Aug-2016
> 07:00	33.4K	lock
> BBC_Radio_4_Extra_20160811_073000_Radio_Active.mp3	11-Aug-2016 08:00	27.5M	lock
> BBC_Radio_4_Extra_20160811_073000_Radio_Active.ogg	11-Aug-2016 08:02	19.0M	lock
> BBC_Radio_4_Extra_20160811_073000_Radio_Active.png	11-Aug-2016 08:04	11.4K	lock
> BBC_Radio_4_Extra_20160811_073000_Radio_Active_files.xml	18-Sep-2018 22:00	4.0K	
> BBC_Radio_4_Extra_20160811_073000_Radio_Active_meta.sqlite	11-Aug-2016
> 08:00	12.0K
> BBC_Radio_4_Extra_20160811_073000_Radio_Active_meta.xml	18-Sep-2018 22:00	66.9K	
> BBC_Radio_4_Extra_20160811_073000_Radio_Active_spectrogram.png	11-Aug-2016
> 08:04	240.0K	lock
> __ia_thumb.jpg	18-Sep-2018 22:00	2.7K	lock
>
> Most of which have a 'lock' symbol.
>
> I cannot access any of the files. And this situation is repeated
> thousands of times.
>
> These unavailable entries are cluttering up all searches.
>
> Why are the there if no-one can access them.
>
> CJB
>
>
> On 25/09/2018, Steve McLaughlin <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> Can you send a link to a padlocked recording on Archive.org? I'm curious to
>> take a look.
>>
>> Whenever you see a stream-only recording on that site (ones that play,
>> anyway), it's usually trivial to find the URL and download it.
>>
>> --
>> Steve McLaughlin
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 3:38 AM Jennifer Vaughn
>> <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Chris,
>>>
>>>
>>> I see that there are many "mirror only" and "stream only" items from BBC
>>> and VOA.  These types of audio items are considered collection names in
>>> the
>>> metadata. I didn't spend loads of time on this, so there surely could be
>>> other collection types that don't have downloadable files.
>>>
>>> While I don't know exactly what you are searching for or how you are
>>> searching, my instinct here would be to try the advanced search (
>>> https://archive.org/advancedsearch.php), and use Boolean operators to
>>> exclude (at least) these two collection types; also limit to media type:
>>> audio along with whatever keywords you are using.
>>>
>>> Internet Archive: Search Engine<https://archive.org/advancedsearch.php>
>>> archive.org
>>> Notes. You can try constructing a search query and hitting "Search" in
>>> the
>>> top "Advanced Search" section and then coming "back" to this section to
>>> copy that query into the "Query:" box.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Here is how a sample search string using Boolean operators with (random)
>>> keyword "lost" would look, though the advanced search form on the Archive
>>> site is simpler to use:
>>>
>>>
>>> (lost) AND mediatype:(audio) AND -collection:(podcasts_mirror) AND
>>> -collection:(stream_only)
>>>
>>>
>>> Hope this helps, if you haven't already gone this route.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>>
>>> Jennifer Vaughn
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List <
>>> [log in to unmask]> on behalf of CJB <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 8:24:25 AM
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: [ARSCLIST] Internet Archive Search Results
>>>
>>> Recently we've been using the Internet Archive to search for 'lost' or
>>> rare radio recordings. We have now discovered that the BBC, VOA, and
>>> numerous other radio stations have uploaded thousands if not millions
>>> of recordings which are 'padlocked' that are unavailable for
>>> downloading.
>>>
>>> After a key word search results are displayed as audio wave files
>>> implying that they are available to listen to. However these are
>>> always 'locked' from both playing and downloading.
>>>
>>> This situation has become a major irritant in that search results are
>>> now being swamped by these unavailable listings and in fact - for us -
>>> are rendering Archive.org completely unusable.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know what's going on? And better how to filter out these
>>> unavailable listings?
>>>
>>> C.J.Brady
>>>