... is *now* pretty wide open .. Sorry Stephen On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 1:10 PM Stephen Hearn <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Quoting from a November 20, 2017 note from Dave Reser to the PCC list: > > As indicated in LC-PCC PS for 9.19.1.1: > > “On rare occasions, a person requests that the formulation of their > authorized access point be changed (e.g., to remove a date of birth or a > fuller form of name). LC and PCC should attempt to honor such requests by > changing the appropriate fields in the record, and indicate in a note that > the person's preference has been followed.” > > > > The mention of “appropriate fields” is intentional, as removing the date > (etc.) from a heading alone does not usually satisfy the request. I > recommend a 667 note to document this as well, in hopes of catching a > cataloger’s eye. > > So I don't thing using the date anyway is a good solution. If the person > is making the request, the date information should be thoroughly removed > from the LCNAF record. > > Note that RDA 9.19.1.8 is not pretty wide open in terms of what > parenthetical qualifiers can be added to an authorized name access point to > differentiate it. If you add "... $c (Ph. D.)", I think that would not > require that the added term be from usage as 1.19.1.7 would for "..., $c > Ph. D." Or (.... $c (Author of [title]), or some other expedient. But not > the date. > > Stephen > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 12:50 PM Young,William C <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > >> I have been known to tell our faculty “Sorry, the rules don’t really give >> me that option, what I need is _____”. >> >> >> >> If pressed I can cite the rules, but frankly, no one has ever pushed me >> on it very hard. >> >> >> >> - Hank >> >> >> >> William C. (Hank) Young >> >> CONSER Coordinator >> >> George A. Smathers Libraries >> >> University of Florida >> >> >> >> *From:* Program for Cooperative Cataloging [mailto: >> [log in to unmask]] *On Behalf Of *Sapon-White, Richard >> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 09, 2018 1:26 PM >> *To:* [log in to unmask] >> *Subject:* [PCCLIST] Adding Ph.D. to authority record for an author >> >> >> >> An author of a dissertation at our institution contacted me to ask that >> we remove his year of birth from the access point for his name on the >> dissertation’s (and thesis’s) bib records. If we do that, his name >> conflicts with another in WorldCat. I do have his middle initial, but when >> asked if we could use his middle name to distinguish his name, he gave a >> long answer why he didn’t want his middle name used. I asked if he could >> provide his profession and he refused to give one. He is in the military >> and with reference to the above possible additions to his name, he cites >> his being in the military. He is okay about us using “Ph. D.” as an >> addition to his name. >> >> >> >> I could just go ahead and do that, but I looked at RDA and the relevant >> LC Policy Statements. RDA 9.19.1.7, Other Term of Rank, Honour, or Office, >> specifically states: >> >> >> >> Include a term indicative of rank, honour, or office if the term appears >> with the name (see 9.4.1.9 >> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__access.rdatoolkit.org_document.php-3Fid-3Drdachp9-26target-3Drda9-2D11593-23rda9-2D11593&d=DwMFAg&c=pZJPUDQ3SB9JplYbifm4nt2lEVG5pWx2KikqINpWlZM&r=B8R2bbCC_DV9QGpqWgLBL6x4pN5m1ouGjVJXrYP-cIg&m=EnXNiC1Ed_mU5iBpTSww4A2qPv2DgQ1f07ZzvBHpJOk&s=ko86IFC3hO8RyuNOcUAB9U0jd45HCEG1ond97n-oZWY&e=>) >> and if needed to distinguish one authorized access point from another. >> Include this element when the person's date of birth or date of death is >> not available (see 9.19.1.3 >> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__access.rdatoolkit.org_document.php-3Fid-3Drdachp9-26target-3Drda9-2D5621-23rda9-2D5621&d=DwMFAg&c=pZJPUDQ3SB9JplYbifm4nt2lEVG5pWx2KikqINpWlZM&r=B8R2bbCC_DV9QGpqWgLBL6x4pN5m1ouGjVJXrYP-cIg&m=EnXNiC1Ed_mU5iBpTSww4A2qPv2DgQ1f07ZzvBHpJOk&s=Z5DUigSJJe-Bf9IJLFm-MFXOBwetcZ07gec4RhCOB1s&e=> >> ). >> >> >> >> “Ph. D.” is given as an example of such a term. Of the 3 conditions >> specified in the rule, only the need to distinguish from another authorized >> access point is me. None of his 3 publications (thesis, dissertation, and a >> journal article) use Ph. D. after his name, although it is obvious from the >> dissertation that he has the degree. His birth date is available, so the 3 >> rd condition in the rule is not met – that is how this situation began. >> >> >> >> Is this the point where cataloger’s judgment kicks in? Should I not be a >> stickler for rules and just drop his birth date and add the Ph. D.? I >> intend to create an authority record in addition to changing the access >> points on the bib records. >> >> >> >> Thanks for your input. >> >> >> >> Richard >> >> >> >> >> >> Richard E. Sapon-White, Head >> >> Cataloging and Metadata Services >> >> Oregon State University Libraries >> >> 121 Valley Library >> >> Corvallis, OR 97331-4501 >> >> 541-737-7319 (voice) >> >> 541-737-8267 (fax) >> >> [log in to unmask] >> >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Stephen Hearn, Metadata Strategist > Data Management & Access, University Libraries > University of Minnesota > 170A Wilson Library (office) > 160 Wilson Library (mail) > 309 19th Avenue South > Minneapolis, MN 55455 > Ph: 612-625-2328 > Fx: 612-625-3428 > ORCID: 0000-0002-3590-1242 > -- Stephen Hearn, Metadata Strategist Data Management & Access, University Libraries University of Minnesota 170A Wilson Library (office) 160 Wilson Library (mail) 309 19th Avenue South Minneapolis, MN 55455 Ph: 612-625-2328 Fx: 612-625-3428 ORCID: 0000-0002-3590-1242