The �not applicable� refers to other classes of Other Designations applied to names of persons from sacred texts, fictional characters, and real non-human entities. In other words, 9.19.1.8 is in force when the cataloger is adding an Other qualifier to a name that doesn't fall under any of the categories above. Word selection in RDA makes this a little difficult to parse: 9.6.1.9 is an other Other Designator associated with a person. Mark K. Ehlert University of St. Thomas Libraries Sent from Outlook<https://aka.ms/sdimjr> for iOS ________________________________ From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Ian Fairclough <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 4:48 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [PCCLIST] Adding Ph.D. to authority record for an author Richard, and other still-interested PCCLIST readers, I believe that you could use �Oregon State University graduate� or �Ph.D., Oregon State University�. In my judgment it accords with RDA 9.19.1.8, although I have difficulty understanding why the last two words are �not applicable� (it looks like the word not should be omitted). A few years ago, as part of a local database migration project, Mason had �George Mason University graduate� added in bibliographic records to all headings for authors of theses. As we don�t create name authority records for the authors of theses, and this project was conducted elsewhere, this phrase doesn�t appear in WorldCat records for dissertations until after the project. We are �living with� the situation in a handful of cases where the author already had established NARs. It also sounds as though you can record his middle name in a 670 field, if he didn�t expressly ask for it to be excluded, but would leave out his year of birth in accordance with his wishes. Good luck - Ian Ian Fairclough Cataloging and Metadata Services Librarian George Mason University 703-993-2938 [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>