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Hi Steve, getting those particular worn acoustic disc recordings to sound 
great on ANY system, speakers or headphones, sounds like a tall order to me. 
Perhaps a note should be attached to the final mp3 files stating the age of 
the recordings and the lack of good, unworn copies.

Working with poor recordings can be disheartening when we know ahead of time 
that they will never sound great, and that probably the ordinary listener 
will not be impressed.  Sometimes I try to explain to a customer how much 
*worse* the final result would have sounded if  it had been produced without 
the necessary  equipment and skill.


Tim Gillett

Perth,
Western Australia

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Smolian" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2019 7:07 PM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Restored audio. Speakers or headphones


> I'm of the opinion that average headphones deliver better quality sound
> than, say, average (computer) speakers.  Given the lack of sound-absorbing
> quality of distance from speakers, what reaches the ear through such 
> phones
> brings out more surface noise from acoustically recorded 78s.  Computer
> speakers are not all junk, however.  If you are willing to forgo deep bass
> the B&W MM-1 delivers remarkable sound.
>
> I'm working with a group of 78s of which there are few known copies and 
> some
> are unique.  Condition was highly variable, and there is one side where
> there is so preeminent a wall of mid-to-low range noise that RX is panting
> from exhaustion.  In no case did I have a choice of pressings.   Some are
> 10" and, to put  3.5 minute and slightly longer selections on them, they
> used a 1.8 or so mil groove.  If a "permanent" stylus was used during
> playback at any time the record's existence, it cut a 2.7 to 3 mil groove
> into the walls.   They were played back using whatever system was 
> available
> to the user at the time and much of the remaining audio is near the groove
> bottom.
>
> They have considerable historical importance and, I assume, will be used 
> in
> educational settings.  Hence my concern.  My tentative decision has been 
> to
> assume that headphones of mediocre quality will be used but I'm open to
> adjusting it.
>
> Steve Smolian
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim Gillett <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2019 9:24 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]; [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Restored audio. Speakers or headphones
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> With poor, noisy recordings which can just as easily have been  recorded
> last week as well as 100 years ago, I think the problem is the same: we do
> the best we can.  Our primary "audio restoration" tools for reducing
> background noise on discs are the same: obtain the cleanest, least noisy
> pressing, and  play it  expertly.
>
> I feel that trying to predict and make adjustments for people's 
> particular
> listening conditions  is like trying to predict the future.  There are too
> many variables, and once a recording is "out there" we've lost control of
> how people will listen to it.  But we  read it on audio production forums
> that a good mastering engineer can make a recording "sound great on all
> systems". I'd like to see that...
>
> Regards,
>
> Tim Gillett
> Perth,
> Western Australia
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steven Smolian" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2019 7:26 AM
> Subject: [ARSCLIST] Restored audio. Speakers or headphones
>
>
>> I'm wondering as to the criteria used by those restoring old recordings
>> regarding the target listener is a speaker or headphone user.  This
>> affects
>> the amount of background noise that has to be removed to give the younger
>> listener unused to 78s a comfortable listening experience.  My focus here
>> is
>> on acoustically recorded laterally cut 78 sides. It seems to me that the
>> younger users are either listing through decent earbuds or  terrible
>> computer speakers.   Comments?
>>
>>
>>
>> Steve Smolian
>
>
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