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Dereferencing a URI identifier to get a description of the resource is not appropriate? That is literally the definition of Linked Data. On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 9:30 PM Denenberg, Ray <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > Can I bring the discussion back to the original question, whether a URI, supplied as the value (rdf:value) of bf:identifiedBy, should be encoded as a literal or an actionable URI. > > > > I believe the question is probably irrelevant, because, I still believe, there is no practical purpose served by doing so. > > > > Let me ask this: if it is to be an actionable URI, what do you expect to get upon dereferencing it? > > · Do you expect to get a description of the resource? We’ve established that that’s not an appropriate use of an identifier. > > · Do you expect to get a copy of the resource? Not only is that also not an appropriate use of an identifier, but there is an existing bibframe property to do that. > > > > So what do you expect to get? > > > > Ray > > > > > > From: Bibliographic Framework Transition Initiative Forum <[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of Young,Jeff (OR) > Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2019 8:37 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [BIBFRAME] When a bf:Identifier is a URI > > > > Osma, > > > > Humpf. I checked with WebProtoge and you’re right. I wasn’t expecting that because owl:deprecated is an owl:AnnotationProperty rather than an owl:DatatypeProperty. > > > > It would still make sense, though, for ISSN (and others) to add this in their linked data RDF to reconcile old school URI schemes and the current Cool http: scheme: > > > > <urn:ISSN:0044-1570> owl:sameAs <http://issn.org/resource/ISSN/0044-1570> > > > > That way the tools can deal with differences in practice over time. The same can’t be said for treating the URN as a literal or as an rdf:value. > > > > Maybe I’m still missing the point? > > > > Jeff > > > > From: Bibliographic Framework Transition Initiative Forum <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Osma Suominen <[log in to unmask]> > Reply-To: Bibliographic Framework Transition Initiative Forum <[log in to unmask]> > Date: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 at 3:43 AM > To: "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Re: [BIBFRAME] When a bf:Identifier is a URI > > > > Hi Jeff! > > Young,Jeff (OR) kirjoitti 4.3.2019 klo 19.43: > > I agree that identifier agencies should migrate old URI schemes to http: > > and deprecate them in their RDF with mappings to the modern form for > > backward compatibility. There’s even a W3C standard for expressing this: > > > > <oldURI> owl:deprecated true ; > > owl:sameAs <newURI> . > > Not sure this expresses what you intend. owl:sameAs means that both its > subject and object are the same thing, the same individual. Thus this > combination of statements implies that <newURI> is also deprecated. > > -Osma > > -- > Osma Suominen > D.Sc. (Tech), Information Systems Specialist > National Library of Finland > P.O. Box 26 (Kaikukatu 4) > 00014 HELSINGIN YLIOPISTO > Tel. +358 50 3199529 > [log in to unmask] > http://www.nationallibrary.fi