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Well, I hope the dates go away, because there are 159 name-title records that have not been "corrected"! If I read the timestamps correctly, LC removed the date within a couple of weeks of the change, at the end of February, but the New Zealand folks went back in in late March to restore their version. I think someone at LC ought to send a cease-and-desist order to Wellington. Chuck Herrold Carnegie Library of Pittsburgh ________________________________ From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Hostage, John <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Monday, April 8, 2019 12:01:40 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [PCCLIST] Heading "Arnold, Malcolm" This is a recurring problem in the NAF, where dates are added to a name even though there is no need to do so under current policies. That can cause unnecessary bib maintenance, but on the other hand, unqualified personal names can be a real pain in authority control as well. The changes to Arnold seem to have been sparked when Arnold, M. ǂq (Malcolm) was established. It had a 400 which was creating a conflict. LC resolved that conflict in the standard way by adding an occupation, so now the composer doesn’t need the dates in the heading. ------------------------------------------ John Hostage Senior Continuing Resources Cataloger Harvard Library--Information and Technical Services Langdell Hall 194 Harvard Law School Library Cambridge, MA 02138 [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> +(1)(617) 495-3974 (voice) +(1)(617) 496-4409 (fax) ISNI 0000 0000 4028 0917 From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ehlert, Mark K. Sent: Monday, April 08, 2019 11:42 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [PCCLIST] Heading "Arnold, Malcolm" PCCLIST: The 100 field heading for Malcolm Arnold (n 79140955) has seen its $d come and go over the past few weeks. Will there be a final decision on the matter, considering there are plenty of name-title headings that may or may not need attention as well? -- Mark K. Ehlert Alma: NA02 Cataloging and Metadata Primo: MT NA01 Librarian O'Shaughnessy-Frey Library University of St. Thomas <http://www.stthomas.edu/libraries/<https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttp-3A__www.stthomas.edu_libraries_%26d%3DDwMFAg%26c%3DWO-RGvefibhHBZq3fL85hQ%26r%3DO9-UIVab7e9YxpBphmOmeEQruoCpRWXNPKDBg9tfb88%26m%3DXYMWbC43-qTPbmBsuEHd2QRe5wxmhZ3klYjsKhZtT7U%26s%3DJaReDlMEOyDoE4lgmvEGf_2XPlD_MxMPFh1dnHowD8o%26e%3D&data=02%7C01%7Cherroldc%40CARNEGIELIBRARY.ORG%7Cb34911c1917142c1e46d08d6bc3b9590%7C37ded2a5c343481abc297a4ff68f56a2%7C0%7C0%7C636903361449444207&sdata=9NbMnif%2BMcCEwHJHAKWblHqsv0N%2FFGdQ5aSCDRHnfd8%3D&reserved=0>> "Experience is by industry achieved // And perfected by the swift course of time"--Shakespeare, "Two Gentlemen of Verona," Act I, Scene iii [University of St. Thomas : All for the Common Good]<https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__www.stthomas.edu_e%26d%3DDwMFAg%26c%3DWO-RGvefibhHBZq3fL85hQ%26r%3DO9-UIVab7e9YxpBphmOmeEQruoCpRWXNPKDBg9tfb88%26m%3DXYMWbC43-qTPbmBsuEHd2QRe5wxmhZ3klYjsKhZtT7U%26s%3D8J7RXI_HReAj1cHqJ_LS-bZw3M3bFKRSEs3YnxIryI8%26e%3D&data=02%7C01%7Cherroldc%40CARNEGIELIBRARY.ORG%7Cb34911c1917142c1e46d08d6bc3b9590%7C37ded2a5c343481abc297a4ff68f56a2%7C0%7C0%7C636903361449444207&sdata=je%2FMxQwJWP2IyYKlqKFWuvj0ydMzJUssn2%2BYFOVa93Q%3D&reserved=0>