Hi Larry, Don’t misunderstand me. I love where I work, and, I have been doing this for a while. I’m not saying that I needed to be patted on the head all the time and have someone say, “good girl”, but gee whiz. I deliberately chose to do the Tech Services track when I went to CUA. We are the ones (I know I’m preaching to the choir here) who decide what the item is about and where to put it (that’s incredibly powerful)—I have often said that we’re like the Naval Seals—if we do our jobs right—you won’t see us coming or going—and that is the way it ought to be. Without us, the public side wouldn’t be able to do their jobs effectively—so, in my opinion, both sides of the house have to work together to make the whole library succeed. Ciao! Sherry From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging <[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of Heiman, Larry Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2019 9:24 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [PCCLIST] Modified vendor records Sherry, Your situation is all too familiar for many of us. Larry Larry Heiman Catalog Librarian & NACO Coordinator Original Cataloging Team Monographic Processing Services Yale University Library [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> 203 432-0012 203-432-8543 fax From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> On Behalf Of Kish, Sherry E Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2019 6:22 AM To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: [PCCLIST] Modified vendor records Well, at the moment, I am slowing taking classes to learn something new because I’m not respected or valued for what I bring to the table. Sad, sad situation. Ciao! Sherry Sherry E. F. Kish Sr. Cataloging Librarian PCC Liaison Ralph J. Bunche Library U.S. Department of State 2201 C. St., NW, Rm. 2438 A/GIS/IPS/LIBR Washington, D.C. 20520 (202) 647-1994 voice (202) 647-0203 fax [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> [http://departmentnotices.a.state.sbu/TinyMCEImage/ImageView/?path=ArrighettiJ(49)] From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> On Behalf Of James L Woods Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 3:58 PM To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: [PCCLIST] Modified vendor records At about the same time I was told that Artificial Intelligence would soon replace all catalogers. We were just wasting our name and should find another job. Jamie Woods UW-Madison From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> On Behalf Of Greta de Groat Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 2:40 PM To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: [PCCLIST] Modified vendor records And back in 1983 when i started library school, i was told not to go into cataloging, since it was a dead profession and shortly there would be no professional catalogers. greta ________________________________ Greta de Groat Stanford University Libraries On 4/16/2019 12:31 PM, Stephen Early wrote: Back in 1985, when I was preparing for library school, a librarian at my alma mater whom I interviewed for advice gave me the following: “if you want guaranteed employment once you get your MLS, study to be a cataloger, because no one wants to be a cataloger. Better yet, study to be a serials cataloger, because most catalogers don’t want to be serials catalogers.” Stephen T. Early Cataloger Center for Research Libraries 6050 S. Kenwood Chicago, IL 60637 773-955-4545 x326 [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> CRL website: www.crl.edu<https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.crl.edu&data=02%7C01%7Clarry.heiman%40yale.edu%7C02acc1262c6e49aa411808d6c31ec35d%7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c%7C0%7C1%7C636910934249015984&sdata=RkwwfbuLErcsRSg8M2W%2FFcQBtTnBqe2Rpc2xM88GBVE%3D&reserved=0> From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ann Heinrichs Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 1:55 PM To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: [PCCLIST] Modified vendor records At a conference I attended last year, tech services people discussed "succession planning" -- planning for, nurturing, and mentoring the next generation of catalogers. One issue was that fewer and fewer MLIS students want to be catalogers. (How could anyone resist the delicious field of cataloging?!) So there is both a dearth of the "pull" factor and a dearth of the "push" factor. On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 1:38 PM John Gordon Marr <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: That’s typical, but how much of that attrition (in general) and the reduced number of catalogers (in general) has been due to budgetary constraints (themselves due to political decisions in funding bodies) and/or acceptance of vendor-provided catalog records that go unreviewed? John G. Marr Collections Zimmerman Library University of New Mexico Albuquerque, NM 87010 [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> **"I really like to know the reasons for what I do!"** Martha Watson Opinions belong exclusively to the individuals expressing them, but sharing is permitted. From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> On Behalf Of Beth Guay Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 11:13 AM To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: [PCCLIST] Modified vendor records My institution had 14 catalog librarians (librarian and equivalent masters degrees), including those in supervisory roles. Today there are 6 by my count, including those in supervisory roles. My question is, do library administrators value cataloging as much as they once did? I had a conversation with an administrator whose eyes glazed over as I discussed how I work on catalog records one-at-a-time, on ***one name authority or series authority record one-at-a-time*** and so one ... So every year in my self evaluation I connect at least a few of these NACO "one at at timers" to the Libraries' collections and to their future value (that is the future value of the records once library linked data migration takes place) ... the good news is that we have faculty status at my institution, which means that in addition to administrators, a peer review committee from across the Libraries read what I write, and I know that they value my work ... -- Ann Heinrichs Metadata/Cataloging Librarian | The Paul Bechtold Library Catholic Theological Union 5401 S. Cornell Ave. | Chicago, IL 60615 | ctu.edu<https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fctu.edu%2F&data=02%7C01%7Clarry.heiman%40yale.edu%7C02acc1262c6e49aa411808d6c31ec35d%7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c%7C0%7C1%7C636910934249015984&sdata=ry6xMWLSiyl2EGQBinNrGsXBGsykC9yHNfFC9QeuOKQ%3D&reserved=0>