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Can I say "yuck!"?

So we have a manuscript in unknown language, but possibly Russian, first published as an English Translation, then published in Russian translated from the English translation, then published in English translated from the Russian translation of the first English translation.

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Thanks for pointing it out, Anne!

The first LC record has "[Translation from the original Russian by Natalia Heseltine.]" So I thought, if it was a literal translation of the original Russian title, the second LC record might have given us a hint as to whether it could be  original Russian title.

I suspect that these might be two different expressions of the same work.

Yang

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I believe that the Russian at https://lccn.loc.gov/200937564<https://lccn.loc.gov/2009375648> is actually translated from an English original.  I sent this message to Yang directly in error instead of here.

cheers,

Anna Slawek

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Stephanie,

Unless she wrote 2 autobiographies, there seems to be an another translation of her autobiography by a different translator and published in a different year (https://lccn.loc.gov/73010564 ) . It was translated from the Russian original. Here's the Russian original: https://lccn.loc.gov/2009375648 .

It's worth investigating.

Yang


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I have a question about what to do when a preferred title is unknown/undiscoverable. The specific example I have is a translation of a work into English but the title in the original language is not given on the piece. I have done research looking for the original language, but have not found anything.

The book I'm cataloging is: Life in two worlds / Marevna Vorobev ; translated by Benet Nash.  Vorobev was Russian but also lived for years in France (as well as England), so the original language was her manuscript could potentially have been in Russian or French.
The preface states: "The manuscript which my old friend Marevna forwarded to me proved to be memoirs of her long life ..."

I'm wondering if it's necessary to establish a provisional authorized access point for: Life in two worlds. $l English
Or whether it's reasonable to consider the preferred title to be the English language title and establish the AAP as such?

Thank you in advance,

Stephanie


Stephanie Fell
Rare Materials Project Cataloger
David M. Rubenstein Rare Book & Manuscript Library
Duke University
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