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From: Hugh Paterson III <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 01:50 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Counts of Wax Cylinders in Collections

>Greetings,
>Thank you for the responses. They are most appreciated and extremely
>helpful.
>I was able to connect (via phone) with Bill Klinger the chair of ARSC
>Cylinder sub-committee.
>He was most helpful in helping me to clarify what I am looking for when I
>originally said "cylinder holdings".
>
>For those of you who are working with or have cylinders, I am more
>interested in ethnographically oriented content which usually would be
>classified as "field recordings" and are usually cut on relatively soft
>brown-wax cylinder blanks. This is in contrast to the the global body of
>mass-duplicated "commercial entertainment cylinder records" (molded using
>harder black wax or celluloid).
>
>My interests is in seeing which languages have old recordings from this era
>and what quantification of items there are in these languages. This is
>similar to my previous post on January 24th 2019
>https://listserv.loc.gov/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind1901&L=ARSCLIST&P=R5124  about
>facilitating the exposure of these collection specifically for people
>looking for language content.
>
>Bill suggested to me based on his working knowledge of holdings that  in
>specific libraries, archives, museums, and private collections (around the
>world), He thinks it is safe to cite the survival of at least 100,000 field
>recordings in the cylinder format, worldwide.
>
>As Adrian Monk would say: "100,000 its a nice round number...."
>
>- Hugh
>
>On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 3:30 AM Jennifer Vaughn <[log in to unmask]>
>wrote:
>
>> As of 2011, the Belfer had 19,750 cylinders; 11,971 were unique titles.
>> The numbers probably haven't significantly changed since then.
>> https://library.syr.edu/digital/guides/b/belfer_cylinders.htm
>> Cheers,
>> Jennifer (formerly of Syracuse)
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>> Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2019 12:10 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Counts of Wax Cylinders in Collections
>>
>> Such would take quite a bit of research; asking, searching, and
>> compiling. A supplier of boxes might be interested, but I'm not sure who
>> else might find it useful to know. There are a number of cylinder
>> collections noted on the Internet; some with counts, some without. Using
>> the string "recording cylinder collections count" you will find many
>> collections. One would also have to conduct a search of the categories
>> of cylinders, e.g. Field recordings, oral history, et al.
>>
>> Paul Jackson
>> Trescott Research
>> Steilacoom, WA
>>
>>
>> On 5/13/2019 11:53 AM, Hugh Paterson III wrote:
>> > Greetings,
>> >
>> > Where can I get a count of the wax cylinders in various archives?
>> >
>> > I mean LOC is claimed by Press Releases to have the largest collection in
>> > the USA. But I can't find a count.
>> > ATM@UI claims just under 7000. But I don't see an exact number anywhere
>> > (but maybe I'm not looking in the right place?)
>> >
>> > University of California Berkeley’s Phoebe A. Hearst Museum of
>> Anthropology
>> > was part of the IRENE project but I don't see a full count. Someone says
>> > 148 but I suspect this might be scoped to a single Indigenous language.
>> >
>> > In contrast to these numbers in the hundreds and low thousands, Tjeerd de
>> > Graaf in various publication cites number in the tens of thousands for
>> > the  Berliner
>> > Phonogramm-Archiv and an archive in St. Petersburg Russia, and for
>> Vienna.
>> >
>> > Any pointers?
>> > - Hugh Paterson III
>> >
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