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PS - I know one Life Member and past presenter - a highly-respected person in the AES - who was going to submit a paper proposal but who decided not to once he found out about the fee. That's a loss to the AES and convention attendees. I suspect that he will not be alone. The AES may have shot themselves in the foot on this one. 

Gary Galo



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From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Gary A. Galo
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2019 4:01 PM
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Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] [EXTERNAL] [ARSCLIST] AES presenter fee clarification

Gary,

I believe you are correct about panelists and workshop presenters. But, those presenting individual papers will be required to pay the fee. That's a large number of presenters, and it's a fee that they did not have to pay in the past. 

Gary



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From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Gary Gottlieb
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2019 3:58 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] [EXTERNAL] [ARSCLIST] AES presenter fee clarification

Gary, I am organizing the Historical Track for the AES Convention. None of
my presenters will be asked to pay the fee since they are panelists and
presenters as outlined above. I do not believe there is any deception in
play as you suggest, since the overwhelming majority of those involved will
be designated as presenters/panelists for their workshops or panels.

Best,


Gary Gottlieb
Eastern Region Vice President, Co-Chair, AES Historical Committee and
Conference Policy Committee, Audio Engineering Society
Executive Director,St. Louis Audio Project
http://stlaudio.org/
Author, Shaping Sound in the Studio and Beyond, Recording on the Go & How
Does It Sound Now? (Winner of the 2010 ARSC Award for Excellence in
Historical Recorded Sound Research)
http://stlaudio.org/gottlieb/


On Sat, May 18, 2019 at 3:35 PM Gary A. Galo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Jessica,
>
> This is simply playing word games. The AES has substituted a Presenting
> Author Fee for the convention registration fee. Either way, the presenter
> pays $470.00. In the past, there was no presenting author fee and
> presenters got a free, all-access badge for the convention. So, presenters
> now have to pay $470.00, whereas before they paid nothing.
>
> And, it's a real slap in the face to Life Members and Fellows, who
> previously got their all-access registration fees waved. Now, if they
> present, they have to pay $470.00, whereas in the past they paid nothing.
>
> There is no misinformation, as I see it.
>
> Gary
>
> ____________________________
>
> Gary Galo
> Audio Engineer Emeritus
> The Crane School of Music
> SUNY at Potsdam, NY 13676
>
> "Great art presupposes the alert mind of the educated listener."
> Arnold Schoenberg
>
> "A true artist doesn't want to be admired, he wants to be believed."
> Igor Markevitch
>
> "If you design an audio system based on the premise that nothing is
> audible,
> on that system nothing will be audible."
> G. Galo
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List [mailto:
> [log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jessica Thompson
> Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2019 3:24 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [ARSCLIST] AES presenter fee clarification
>
> There has been some misleading information circulating about speaker fees
> for the AES convention. Per the convention organizers:
>
>
> Presenters/panelists who participate in the AES 147th
> workshops/tutorials/masterclasses program will receive a complimentary
> Four-day All Access Badge and will NOT be required to pay a registration
> fee.
>
>
>
> The Presenting Author Fee is different than and separate from the
> registration fee, and is required for all presenting authors with
> peer-reviewed papers or engineering briefs.
>
> --
> *Jessica Thompson Audio LLC*
> http://jessicathompsonaudio.com/
>