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Arias is associated as editor with at least two distinct works titled "Liver"--the one noted by Yang, editions by various publishers since 1983, and a serial published by Excerpta Medica, 1981-1987. The serial record flagged as pcc nsdp uses "130 Liver (Amsterdam, Netherlands)", so that and "130 Liver (Arias)" are already distinguished. Stephen On Tue, Mar 3, 2020 at 4:26 PM McDonald, Stephen <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Okay, I accept the argument; we need a unique AAP for the work, and > possibly the expression. Does this mean we need to put in BFMs for the > older editions? It seems to me we do. > > > > > Steve McDonald > > > [log in to unmask] > > > > > > *From:* Program for Cooperative Cataloging <[log in to unmask]> *On > Behalf Of *Adam L Schiff > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 3, 2020 4:01 PM > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Subject:* Re: [PCCLIST] work-level vs expression-level access points > > > > Yes, if Liver is the preferred title of more than one work, then you need > to differentiate them. The access point Liver (Arias) is certainly > adequate. An alternative would be Liver (1983). Even better, however, > might be to reconsider whether the title proper is just Liver. If you > consider the entire title proper to be Liver: biology and pathobiology, and > if that is unique from all other works, you wouldn’t need a 130: > > > > 245 00 The liver: biology and pathobiology / ǂc edited by Irwin M. Arias > [and six others]. > > > > Of course either way, the earlier editions might need either a 130 or a > revision to the 245. > > > > You don’t have to name the specific expression in an authorized access > point, but you’re certainly permitted to. In a situation like this, I > probably wouldn’t bother. If I were doing it, I’d probably prefer Liver > (Arias). $f 2020 rather than using the edition statement as an other > distinguishing characteristic of expression, but that’s just my preference > in situations like this. > > > > Adam Schiff > > Principal Cataloger > > University of Washington Libraries > > > > *From:* Program for Cooperative Cataloging <[log in to unmask]> *On > Behalf Of *Yang Wang > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 3, 2020 10:39 AM > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Subject:* work-level vs expression-level access points > > > > 2 quick questions about a work-level AAP used in this bib record (lccn > 2019024961). > > > > 130 0 Liver (Arias) > > > > 1) The qualifier “Arias” sounds a bit funny and “untoward”, so to speak, > since it happens to be a variant form of the lcgft term “Songs.” We all > know, for machine indexing and data manipulation, it does not matter at > all. But for a human to read and comprehend what it is, would it be better > to see a more understandable heading like “Liver (Reference work : Arias)”? > > > > > 2) This is the 6th edition of the work. At this point, would an > expression level access point be more appropriate? > > > > 130 0 Live (Arias) $s (6th edition) > > > > Per OCLC bib file, the first edition was published in 1983; Irwin M. Arias > has been its chief editor since the 1st edition. I am not questioning the > use of work-level AAP in this bib, seeing that it stands for “[a] > distinct intellectual … creation.” I am just inquiring if there’s a best > practice when we come to deal with reference books/textbooks that have gone > through multiple editions. > > > > If a work-level AAP is all we need, so be it. But if an expression-level > AAP is more uniquely helpful to library users, then, why not? > > > > Yang > -- Stephen Hearn, Metadata Strategist Data Management & Access, University Libraries University of Minnesota 170A Wilson Library (office) 160 Wilson Library (mail) 309 19th Avenue South Minneapolis, MN 55455 Ph: 612-625-2328 Fx: 612-625-3428 ORCID: 0000-0002-3590-1242