Verses 1-4058 of the Roman de la Rose were by Guillaume; Jean wrote 17,724 additional lines (

The NAR for "Jean, ... $t Roman de la Rose. $n Verses 4059-7230” represents only the first part of Jean’s work.


I agree with Yang that there is a missing NAR for “Jean, ǂc de Meun, ǂd approximately 1240-approximately 1305. ǂt Roman de la Rose”


I don’t think Alma would flip any headings. 



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The authorities indicate that Jean, de Meun's work is a continuation of Guillaume, de Lorris' Roman de la Rose. There is an authority for "Jean, ... $t Roman de la Rose. $n Verses 4059-7230". If the Molinet work is related to these two earlier works, Guillaume's and Jean's, then the error is in the authority for Molinet's work. Its 500 should be for the full established title for Jean's extension of Guillaume's work, not just for "Jean, ... $t Roman de la Rose".




On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 8:59 AM Yang Wang <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

I came across a situation in which a 5XX cross-reference was made to a 1XX heading that had not been established. See the following example (from PUL’s Voyager system):


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“Reference” here is equivalent to “See also reference,” which points to: Molinet, Jean, ǂd 1435-1507. ǂt Romant de la Rose moralisé (lccn no2017125570)—an adaption. As the following list shows, the title proper of the original work “$t Roman de la Rose [100]” is missing. Deleted by accident?


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BTW, I was just wondering how ALMA (which PUL is planning to migrate to within a few months) would deal with issues of this kind. Would ALMA be able to catch and flag them? Or they would simply go under the radar for who knows how long.





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