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Corey --

Thanks, I am aware the media are not comparable technically.  But put
another way, a poor photographer with an excellent camera can screw up any
photograph.  A great photographer with a crappy camera can make a
magnificent photo.

That said, around 1990 a good tech and I once put one of Yamaha's best
three-head decks brand new through a torture test with tones.  That Yamaha
could, at -10 db, stay flat or down barely a db in high frequency response
way out beyond 16Khz.  It didn't lose much at -0.

I was talking about the result of what I hear coming off the occasionally
well-recorded first generation tape, though in general I lack respect for
the medium.

Best,

Dave R


On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 10:48 AM Corey Bailey <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

> Hi Dave,
>
> Just to clarify:
>
> When I wrote that I was always amazed that cassette fidelity was as good
> as it was, I was referring to the psychics involved. Most people aren't
> aware that the specs for the compact cassette are referenced at -20dB as
> opposed to 1/4" reel-to-reel at 15IPS (or greater) which is referenced
> at 0 dB or +4, etc. (7.5 IPS, 1/4"  reel-to-reel is referenced at -10dB).
>
> Happy Holidays,
> CB
> Corey Bailey Audio Engineering
> www.baileyzone.net
>
> On 12/15/2020 7:53 AM, Dave Radlauer wrote:
> > On cassettes.  I always thought they were execrable as a commercial mass
> > music distribution medium.
> >
> > But the technology did have some robustness in retrospect.  I have been
> > gifted/inherited a large number of live performance amatuer Jazz
> recordings.
> >
> > Even halfway decent FIRST GENERATION tapes, stereo pickups on mediocre
> gear
> > and, not even from a board mix, can contain remarkable dynamics,
> bandwidth
> > and color.
> >
> > Dave R
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 12:32 PM Corey Bailey <[log in to unmask]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Lou,
> >>
> >> Regarding your earlier comment about variations of cassettes and
> >> reel-to-reel tapes: When I was working as a recording engineer in the
> >> world of analog tape, I used to grumble about the lack of adherence to
> >> professional standards. Then, the 'home studio' craze sprang up and
> >> professional standards went out the window (No leaderded takes, no
> >> line-up tones, multiple speeds on the same roll of tape, etc.). In the
> >> last 20 years or so, I have been archiving material for people who have
> >> found old recordings in 'Grandmas' attic' and have come across
> >> everything, mostly the victim of very poor storage. Nowadays, I consider
> >> that to be a challenge.
> >>
> >> IIRC, my first encounter with the 'Compact Cassette' was in the late
> >> 1960's which, meant that the format was developed before that. Here is
> >> information from Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassette_tape
> >> I was always amazed that the fidelity was as good as it was and it
> >> seemed to continually improve! Unlike the 4Tr. and 8Tr. formats which
> >> sounded bad from the get-go (IMHO).
> >>
> >> Be safe and Happy Holidays,
> >>
> >> CB
> >>
> >> Corey Bailey Audio Engineering
> >> www.baileyzone.net
> >>
> >> On 12/14/2020 11:22 AM, Lou Judson wrote:
> >>> I just took a peek at that, and I see a very big problem: It shows the
> >> image of the cassette as purchased, but users will take the label/cover
> off
> >> and what is needed is a picture of the cassette itself without the
> wrapper!
> >>> I only looked at one example.
> >>>
> >>> <L>
> >>> Lou Judson
> >>> Intuitive Audio
> >>> 415-883-2689
> >>>
> >>>> On Dec 14, 2020, at 9:22 AM, Ivayla Angelova Roleva - Peneva <
> >> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >>>> Hello, Kyle,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Maybe you can find this source helpful: Vintage Cassettes,
> >> http://vintagecassettes.com/index.htm <
> >> http://vintagecassettes.com/index.htm>
> >>>> I hope that works for you.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Best,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Iva Roleva-Peneva
> >>>>
> >>>> ______________
> >
>


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