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How about $i Ancestral home,   $i Native of?  Wikidata has an item for
Ancestral home.  Many Chinese records show the location of 'native of '
either in 370 $a or $f.  I think we need clear descriptions of both.

Erica Chang
Univ. of Hawaii

On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 9:27 PM Adam L Schiff <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Good one, Eduardo!  I don’t think I’ve ever seen a filming location
> recorded in an authority record, but why not? I immediately thought of
> differentiating setting from filming location:
>
> $i Setting: $f San Francisco (Calif.) $2 NAF
> $i Filming location: $f Vancouver (B.C.) $2 naf
>
> $i Setting: $f Wyoming $2 naf
> $i Filming location: $f Canadian Rockies (B.C. and Alta.) $2 lcsh
> $i Filming location: $f Alberta $2 naf
>
> Adam
>
> Adam L. Schiff
> Principal Cataloger
> University of Washington Libraries
> Box 352900
> Seattle, WA 98195-2900
> aschiff @ uw.edu
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> *From:* Program for Cooperative Cataloging <[log in to unmask]> on
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> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 9, 2020 10:55:51 PM
> *To:* [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
> *Subject:* Re: Use of 370 $i in bib and authority records
>
> How about $i Filming location for motion pictures? For example:
>
> 130 0_ $a Moonraker (Motion picture)
> 370 __ $i Filming location: $f Parque Nacional Tikal (Guatemala) $2 lcsh
> 370 __ $i Filming location: $f Veneto (Italy) $2 naf
> 370 __ $i Filming location: $f John F. Kennedy Space Center $2 naf
>
> Eduardo Fojo
> Media Cataloger Librarian, FIU Library
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> *From:* Program for Cooperative Cataloging <[log in to unmask]> on
> behalf of Adam L Schiff <[log in to unmask]>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 9, 2020 11:14 PM
> *To:* [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
> *Subject:* [PCCLIST] Use of 370 $i in bib and authority records
>
>
> Note: This message originated from outside the FIU Faculty/Staff email
> system.
>
> Hello PCC colleagues,
>
> We at UW have started to use subfield $i in the 370 field to indicate the
> setting of a work, in both bib and authority records.  For example:
>
> 100 1# Richler, Mordecai, ǂd 1931-2001. ǂt Apprenticeship of Duddy Kravitz
> 370 ## ǂg Canada ǂ2 naf
> 370 ## ǂi Setting: ǂf Montréal (Québec) ǂ2 naf
>
> 100 1# Richler, Mordecai, ǂd 1931-2001, ǂe author.
> 245 14 The apprenticeship of Duddy Kravitz / ǂc Mordecai Richler.
> 260 ## Toronto, Ont. ; ǂa New York, N.Y. : ǂb Penguin Books, ǂc 1995.
> 370 ## ǂi Setting: ǂf Montréal (Québec) ǂ2 naf
> 370 ## ǂg Canada ǂ2 naf
>
> 100 1# Alexie, Sherman, ǂd 1966- ǂe author.
> 245 14 The Lone Ranger and Tonto fistfight in heaven / ǂc Sherman Alexie.
> 264 #1 New York : ǂb Grove Press, ǂc [2005]
> 264 #4 ǂc ©2005
> 370 ## ǂi Setting: ǂf Spokane Indian Reservation (Wash.) ǂ2 lcsh
> 370 ## ǂi Setting: ǂf Seattle (Wash.) ǂ2 naf
>
> Recently, I've been thinking about other possible uses of subfield $i,
> realizing that most uses of 370 $f (other associated place) could
> potentially benefit from more specific information about the nature of the
> relationship to a place.  We've long included workplace locations in
> personal name authority records, typically using $f.  I tell our catalogers
> that if all they know is where a person works, don't assume it's their
> place of residence and use $f.  But since $f can mean many kinds of things,
> I wonder if we should develop some recommended terminology for use in
> subfield $i?  For example, for workplace location, we could record:
>
> 100 1# Alexander, Becky ǂc (Atmospheric scientist)
> 370 ## ǂc United States ǂ2 naf
> 370 ## ǂi Work location: ǂf Seattle (Wash.) ǂ2 naf
> 372 ## Atmospheric chemistry ǂ2 lcsh
> 373 ## University of Washington. Department of Atmospheric Sciences ǂ2 naf
> ǂs 2005
>
> "work location" also happens to be the name of the property in Wikidata
> that we use to record where a person works/has worked.
>
> I'm wondering what others think about using $i to explain the nature of
> the type of place recorded in $f?  Would folks like to see PCC develop a
> list of terms to use in the subfield $i?  If we do that, URIs could also
> potentially be created that could be used in $4.  There already are several
> URIs for setting that can be used:
> http://id.loc.gov/vocabulary/relators/stg
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__id.loc.gov_vocabulary_relators_stg&d=DwMGaQ&c=lhMMI368wojMYNABHh1gQQ&r=S6X-4x6p6ZIjztjOiv3i0A&m=TJFvFL53gdgvqsSfkQTgYAse9POnYMc1GYujLvs2L48&s=6aS4YssTkdYaAOQ4i624aUUCSUCaFnyZieSyvNrbNxI&e=>
> and http://id.loc.gov/entities/relationships/setting
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__id.loc.gov_entities_relationships_setting&d=DwMGaQ&c=lhMMI368wojMYNABHh1gQQ&r=S6X-4x6p6ZIjztjOiv3i0A&m=TJFvFL53gdgvqsSfkQTgYAse9POnYMc1GYujLvs2L48&s=b6jv--2OelUG0i3ak9p3JaJR2LVF4Mic72jXFyGA9NY&e=>.
> There's also an example in the PCC Task Group on Linked Data Best Practices
> Final Report on page 11:
>
> 370 ## $i Setting: $a Wyoming $2 naf $4
> http://id.loc.gov/vocabulary/relators/stg
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__id.loc.gov_vocabulary_relators_stg&d=DwMGaQ&c=lhMMI368wojMYNABHh1gQQ&r=S6X-4x6p6ZIjztjOiv3i0A&m=TJFvFL53gdgvqsSfkQTgYAse9POnYMc1GYujLvs2L48&s=6aS4YssTkdYaAOQ4i624aUUCSUCaFnyZieSyvNrbNxI&e=> $0
> http://id.loc.gov/authorities/names/n79022108
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__id.loc.gov_authorities_names_n79022108&d=DwMGaQ&c=lhMMI368wojMYNABHh1gQQ&r=S6X-4x6p6ZIjztjOiv3i0A&m=TJFvFL53gdgvqsSfkQTgYAse9POnYMc1GYujLvs2L48&s=9TNw-tLyz7mdVQrj13nrkh9JMb2tqaP4C8tWJPdNZhk&e=>
>
> Wikidata has both the property "work location" and an item for the concept
> of workplace location, so URIs are available for either of them, although I
> think for linked data purposes we would want to use the property URI in $4:
>
>
>    - workplace (Q628858)
>    <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.wikidata.org_wiki_Q628858&d=DwMGaQ&c=lhMMI368wojMYNABHh1gQQ&r=S6X-4x6p6ZIjztjOiv3i0A&m=TJFvFL53gdgvqsSfkQTgYAse9POnYMc1GYujLvs2L48&s=Q_RjSUvbXjGmHAbv0CUe5RYgRYCxubMIbs_1pqjt_3I&e=>
>    : work location
>    physical location where someone works
>    - concept URI: http://www.wikidata.org/entity/Q628858
>    <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.wikidata.org_entity_Q628858&d=DwMGaQ&c=lhMMI368wojMYNABHh1gQQ&r=S6X-4x6p6ZIjztjOiv3i0A&m=TJFvFL53gdgvqsSfkQTgYAse9POnYMc1GYujLvs2L48&s=OB1BDByQKlssp5ROFZbV7RXP6W2rtd3fv_io9y4Cel4&e=>
>    -
>    - work location (P937)
>    <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.wikidata.org_wiki_Property-3AP937&d=DwMGaQ&c=lhMMI368wojMYNABHh1gQQ&r=S6X-4x6p6ZIjztjOiv3i0A&m=TJFvFL53gdgvqsSfkQTgYAse9POnYMc1GYujLvs2L48&s=QK1Ns0n5TopjudtjH9LSa1R9p7A51neuf1Ift7U--50&e=>
>    location where persons were active
>    - concept URI: http://www.wikidata.org/entity/P937
>    <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.wikidata.org_entity_P937&d=DwMGaQ&c=lhMMI368wojMYNABHh1gQQ&r=S6X-4x6p6ZIjztjOiv3i0A&m=TJFvFL53gdgvqsSfkQTgYAse9POnYMc1GYujLvs2L48&s=jo8Ikl4IKTj0pfnvhZB3jQe0LD1-lXCtSRb0l21J814&e=>
>
>
> We could use a Wikidata URI in $4 instead of one maintained by LC, e.g.:
>
> 370 ## ǂi Work location: ǂf Seattle (Wash.) ǂ2 naf ǂ4
> http://www.wikidata.org/entity/P937
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.wikidata.org_entity_P937&d=DwMGaQ&c=lhMMI368wojMYNABHh1gQQ&r=S6X-4x6p6ZIjztjOiv3i0A&m=TJFvFL53gdgvqsSfkQTgYAse9POnYMc1GYujLvs2L48&s=jo8Ikl4IKTj0pfnvhZB3jQe0LD1-lXCtSRb0l21J814&e=>
>
> I'm wondering what other types of places people use 370 $f for?  I know I
> have seen $f used for burial places.   For example, we might do:
>
> 100 1# Baldwin, James, ǂd 1924-1987
> 370 ## Harlem (New York, N.Y.) ǂ2 naf
> 370 ## New York (N.Y.) ǂ2 naf
> 370 ## ǂb Saint-Paul (Alpes-Maritimes, France) ǂ2 naf
> 370 ## ǂc United States ǂ2 naf
> 370 ## ǂi Burial place: ǂf Hartsdale (N.Y.) ǂ2 naf
>
> Burial place also has a Wikidata property URI that could be used in $4:
> http://www.wikidata.org/entity/P119
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.wikidata.org_entity_P119&d=DwMGaQ&c=lhMMI368wojMYNABHh1gQQ&r=S6X-4x6p6ZIjztjOiv3i0A&m=TJFvFL53gdgvqsSfkQTgYAse9POnYMc1GYujLvs2L48&s=T7dN9XSfpR8BjK2k6NDzFxRSd1b7Bpaeo7wZ9GMMoXU&e=>
>
> I think I've also seen 370 $f used for places where a person attended
> school.
>
> My short list so far:
>
> $i Setting
> $i Work location
> $i Burial place
> $i School location
>
> Any others?  Should we start more regularly using $i when 370 $f is used
> in bib and authority records?
>
> I welcome your thoughts!
>
> Adam Schiff
>
> Adam Schiff
> Principal Cataloger
> University of Washington Libraries
> (206) 543-8409
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