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Tim-I'll post some samples of this as I run into it. I'm working on non-laminated discs at this point, but I still notice improvements sometimes with the VRII over the stereo Shure I use.-Mickey -----Original Message----- From: Tim Gillett Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2021 11:32 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] VRII a necessary option Mickey, the 45 deg aligned coils are downstream of any stylus and groove mistracking issues, so the result should be the same whether a mono cart or a stereo cart summed to mono in post is used. In a stereo cart, either the vertical or the lateral information can be isolated later. In a mono cart, only the lateral info is outputted. That's my understanding anyway. If a disc was buckled and caused watery sound I suspect it would be equally watery regardless of whether a mono or a summed stereo cart. But happy to be proved wrong on this. I'm more a magnetic tape guy. Tim. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List" <[log in to unmask]> To:<[log in to unmask]> Cc: Sent:Sat, 30 Jan 2021 21:52:46 -0800 Subject:Re: [ARSCLIST] VRII a necessary option Tim - The VRII is a true mono cartridge. The issue with summing from a stereo cartridge if there is any vertical information there is introduced makes a sound like under water. If the surface is totally flat then the stereo cart works fine most of the time. -Mickey -----Original Message----- From: Tim Gillett Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2021 9:39 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] VRII a necessary option Is the VR II a mono cart? If so, what is the difference between a mono cart, and a stereo cart summed to mono in the DAW? Cheers Tim. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List" <[log in to unmask]> To:<[log in to unmask]> Cc: Sent:Sat, 30 Jan 2021 16:03:42 -0800 Subject:Re: [ARSCLIST] VRII a necessary option Ben- The mottled surface you can see on laminated discs is the problem. Using a stereo cartridge doesn't work so well if you have any vertical information. Something I have tried with the VRII is have the stylus a little lower - meaning that it doesn't have to be between the poles but just below them. It reduces the output a little if it is too much for a direct connection to the phono on an amplifier. I use a Heathkit WA P-2 preamp tube amp so it accepts the higher input level. I wonder if an assembly could be made with a 3D printer for the GE.-Mickey -----Original Message----- From: Benjamin Roth-Aroni Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2021 1:29 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] VRII a necessary option Hi Mickey Great idea! I've also noticed that certain records sound terrible when played with a stereo cartridge no matter which stylus I use. Then I tried the VRii and the RPJ-047 which also sounded better. The VRII usually has a 2.5 mil and the RPJ-047 has a 3 mil. Some old Columbia records give a slight warped sound with a stereo cartridge, but not with either GE cartridcge. Regards, Ben On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 2:48 PM Mickey Clark <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Hi-Benjamin Roth-Aroni I am finding that some records played with a stereo > cartridge are really noisy. When I try the same record with same size > stylus > on the VRII the record tracks perfectly. I've run into this multiple > times > and the VRII is my go-to for difficult records. > I would like to suggest that a manufacturer re-think the stylus for this > cartridge and modernize it. A reliable self centering would be an > advantage. > The cartridges will still work a hundred years from now - I'd like to see > a > modernized stylus for this amazing cartridge. - Mickey Clark > > > Mickey Clark > 710 Westminster Avenue West > Penticton BC > Canada > 250-462-7881 > V2A 1K8 > http://mcproductions.ca > 1-250-462-7881 > ------------------------- Email sent using Optus Webmail ------------------------- Email sent using Optus Webmail