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Quoting:  Similar to “actor” and “actress”.
Have you noticed that all the actresses want to be called actors now?  Except when it's time for the "Best Actress" award at the Oscars!!!!

Ron

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From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Steve Smolian
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I've wondered the same. Perhaps "Lighthearted?"    Nora Bayes is a good example of that kind of performer.  I don't have her records in front of me to see if  "comedienne" was used but I suspect the word reflects an undrearry approach.

Steve

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I must not have been clear in my initial posting. I do understand the gender distinction. The  question is why those terms were used to describe performers who were not comics, per se.

On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 1:40 PM Roy Baugher <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> I think “comedian” is/was used as a male variant of the word, and 
> “comedienne” is/was used as the female variant of the word.
>
> Similar to “actor” and “actress”.
>
> Etymologists would know better about this subject than me.
>
> Roy Baugher
>
> On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 1:13 PM Rob Bamberger <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
> >  "Comedian" and "Comedienne" as artist designations on record labels 
> > into the 1920s? It's  a use of these words in a broader context than 
> > the conventional sense. Was it meant simply to identify someone as a
> "popular"
> > rather than classical or "serious" artist? Is it meant to be 
> > associated with performers who might be seen in vaudeville or 
> > theater who had acts that combined some comic patter or exchange, followed by song (or dance).
> >
> > Is there a precise intention that has been written about, or 
> > discovered
> in
> > primary materials?
> >
> > Thanks for your comments.
> >
> > Rob
> >
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