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Mickey,  the 45 deg aligned coils are downstream of any stylus and
groove mistracking issues, so the result should  be the same whether
a mono cart or a stereo cart summed to mono in post is used.

 In a stereo cart, either the vertical or the lateral information can
be isolated later. In a mono cart, only the lateral info is outputted.
That's my understanding anyway.

 If a disc was buckled and caused watery sound I suspect it would be
equally watery regardless of whether a mono or a summed stereo cart. 
But happy to be proved wrong on this. I'm more a magnetic tape guy.

Tim.

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Subject:Re: [ARSCLIST] VRII a necessary option

 Tim - The VRII is a true mono cartridge. The issue with summing from
a 
 stereo cartridge if there is any vertical information there is
introduced 
 makes a sound like under water. If the surface is totally flat then
the 
 stereo cart works fine most of the time. -Mickey

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 Is the VR II a mono cart? If so, what is the difference between
 a mono cart, and a stereo cart summed to mono in the DAW?

 Cheers Tim.

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 Ben- The mottled surface you can see on laminated discs is the
 problem.
 Using a stereo cartridge doesn't work so well if you have any
 vertical
 information.
 Something I have tried with the VRII is have the stylus a little
 lower -
 meaning that it doesn't have to be between the poles but just below
 them.
 It reduces the output a little if it is too much for a direct
 connection to
 the phono on an amplifier. I use a Heathkit WA P-2 preamp tube amp so
 it
 accepts the higher input level.
 I wonder if an assembly could be made with a 3D printer for the
 GE.-Mickey

 -----Original Message----- 
 From: Benjamin Roth-Aroni
 Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2021 1:29 PM
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 Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] VRII a necessary option

 Hi Mickey

 Great idea!

 I've also noticed that certain records sound terrible when played
 with a
 stereo cartridge no matter which stylus I use.
 Then I tried the VRii and the RPJ-047 which also sounded better. The
 VRII
 usually has a 2.5 mil and the RPJ-047 has a 3 mil.
 Some old Columbia records give a slight warped sound with a stereo
 cartridge, but not with either GE cartridcge.

 Regards,
 Ben

 On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 2:48 PM Mickey Clark <[log in to unmask]>
 wrote:

 > Hi-Benjamin Roth-Aroni I am finding that some records played with a
 stereo
 > cartridge are really noisy. When I try the same record with same
 size
 > stylus
 > on the VRII the record tracks perfectly. I've run into this
 multiple
 > times
 > and the VRII is my go-to for difficult records.
 > I would like to suggest that a manufacturer re-think the stylus for
 this
 > cartridge and modernize it. A reliable self centering would be an
 > advantage.
 > The cartridges will still work a hundred years from now - I'd like
 to see
 > a
 > modernized stylus for this amazing cartridge. - Mickey Clark
 >
 >
 > Mickey Clark
 > 710 Westminster Avenue West
 > Penticton BC
 > Canada
 > 250-462-7881
 > V2A 1K8
 > http://mcproductions.ca
 > 1-250-462-7881
 >

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