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Thanks Mickey,  Tim.-------- Original Message ----------

Tim-I'll post some samples of this as I run into it. I'm working on
non-laminated discs at this point, but I still notice improvements
sometimes with the VRII over the stereo Shure I use.-Mickey
-----Original Message----- From: Tim Gillett Sent: Saturday, January
30, 2021 11:32 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re:
[ARSCLIST] VRII a necessary option Mickey, the 45 deg aligned coils
are downstream of any stylus and groove mistracking issues, so the
result should be the same whether a mono cart or a stereo cart summed
to mono in post is used. In a stereo cart, either the vertical or the
lateral information can be isolated later. In a mono cart, only the
lateral info is outputted. That's my understanding anyway. If a disc
was buckled and caused watery sound I suspect it would be equally
watery regardless of whether a mono or a summed stereo cart. But happy
to be proved wrong on this. I'm more a magnetic tape guy. Tim. -----
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Subject:Re: [ARSCLIST] VRII a necessary option Tim - The VRII is a
true mono cartridge. The issue with summing from a stereo cartridge if
there is any vertical information there is introduced makes a sound
like under water. If the surface is totally flat then the stereo cart
works fine most of the time. -Mickey -----Original Message----- From:
Tim Gillett Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2021 9:39 PM To:
[log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] VRII a necessary
option Is the VR II a mono cart? If so, what is the difference between
a mono cart, and a stereo cart summed to mono in the DAW? Cheers Tim.
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Subject:Re: [ARSCLIST] VRII a necessary option Ben- The mottled
surface you can see on laminated discs is the problem. Using a stereo
cartridge doesn't work so well if you have any vertical information.
Something I have tried with the VRII is have the stylus a little lower
- meaning that it doesn't have to be between the poles but just below
them. It reduces the output a little if it is too much for a direct
connection to the phono on an amplifier. I use a Heathkit WA P-2
preamp tube amp so it accepts the higher input level. I wonder if an
assembly could be made with a 3D printer for the GE.-Mickey
-----Original Message----- From: Benjamin Roth-Aroni Sent: Saturday,
January 30, 2021 1:29 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re:
[ARSCLIST] VRII a necessary option Hi Mickey Great idea! I've also
noticed that certain records sound terrible when played with a stereo
cartridge no matter which stylus I use. Then I tried the VRii and the
RPJ-047 which also sounded better. The VRII usually has a 2.5 mil and
the RPJ-047 has a 3 mil. Some old Columbia records give a slight
warped sound with a stereo cartridge, but not with either GE
cartridcge. Regards, Ben On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 2:48 PM Mickey Clark
[log in to unmask] wrote: Hi-Benjamin Roth-Aroni I am finding that some
records played with a stereo cartridge are really noisy. When I try
the same record with same size stylus on the VRII the record tracks
perfectly. I've run into this multiple times and the VRII is my go-to
for difficult records. I would like to suggest that a manufacturer
re-think the stylus for this cartridge and modernize it. A reliable
self centering would be an advantage. The cartridges will still work a
hundred years from now - I'd like to see a modernized stylus for this
amazing cartridge. - Mickey Clark Mickey Clark 710 Westminster Avenue
West Penticton BC Canada 250-462-7881 V2A 1K8 http://mcproductions.ca
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