Here's a couple of examples

232257967 Miss Piggy as author updated circa 2014 and later by others
949835666 Cigbo - note Cigbo is depicted as a cat, but it's really a cigar box used as a "kitty" for donations; 2016

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Greetings all.

I understand the basics of LRM, and have read through the relevant parts of the official RDA (Guidance: Fictitious and Non-Human Appellations) plus the document that Kathy recently cited, thanks Kathy: Explanations of recurring issues. Despite my 35+ years as a cataloger, I have difficulty understanding how the guidance can be applied in a real bibliographic record. I have also looked at recent presentations on RDA. However, nowhere do I see actual examples of how, using the Official RDA, one could catalog a resource if it purports to be the creation of a fictitious person or non-human entity as its creator.  With all due respect, this is of course a much broader problem of very theoretical guidelines that are conceptually hard to grasp and don't yet have examples -- it really makes understanding--to say nothing of training, exceptionally challenging.   

Can anyone point to actual cataloging examples that illustrate how such resources would be cataloged in Official RDA? 

For discussion purposes, I have made up 2 hypothetical examples below, using my limited understanding of the  RDA guidance. (I do understand that LC and the PCC have not yet completed LC-PCC PS in this area. However, it should theoretically be possible to catalog something just using the Official RDA, without rule interpretations?.


A. Work attributed to a fictitious person: 

T.p. has:  The story of my life / by Flynn Flam. We know that Flynn Flam is not a real person, and that it was written by John Smwth. How would this be rendered in “Official RDA”? (using MARC as a shortcut here).



100 1# $a Smwth, John, $e creator person of work.

24510  $a The story of my life / $c by John Smwth.

??? Flam, Flim, $e related entity of work.

  1. The user may very well look in an author index for "Flam, Flim." Can this be used in an AAP on an "Official RDA" record, or only as a see also from reference on the NAR for  Smwth, or only used in a unstructured note field?

B. Work attributed to a non-human entity:

       T.p. has: Searching for bananas / by Koko the Gorilla. We know the work was actually written by Robert Smwyth.

     100 1# $a Smwth, Robert, $e creator person of work.

      24510 $a Searching for bananas / $c by Koko the Gorilla.

      ??? Koko $c (Gorilla), $e related entity of work.  

 I don't think Official RDA approves of the non-human entity as an access point; would it need to be just in a note in an RDA coded record? But how then would you be able to use "related entity of work", which is given in RDA?

(And does such an approach fulfill the ICP principles of "Convenience of the user" and "Representation"?)

Thanks for any enlightenment anyone can offer here.


George Prager

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New York University Law School Library

Phone: 917-951-0428