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Hello Tim, 

Paul Robeson - -MWH reissue from the late 90's?  That was a Dennis
Rooney and Seth Werner production at Sony music Studios when it existed.
 I assisted on that project and was learning from Seth and the rest of
the engineers at Sony during that time about early media.  It was a
great reissue series that ended too soon. 

I am unsure about the plates as well, but have been told they are
necessary for fitting the disc to the machine.  Standards today don't
fit the 78 negatives or the stampers.  

Best, 

Andreas 

On 2021-04-06 21:42, Tim Gillett wrote:

> Hello Andreas, 
> 
> Thanks for the information. Yes photos would be interesting. I'm still
> not sure what function the plates serve. Are they adaptor plates to
> allow for the different dimensions of the metal master? 
> 
> I remember the first time I hear a CD taken from a 78 vinyl pressing
> from the metal master (Paul Robeson: Songs of Free Men, I think)  and
> was impressed with the much lower noise floor than the shellac
> pressing could have ever been.
> 
> Regards, Tim 
> 
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> Subject:Re: [ARSCLIST] [78-L] What happened to Columbia's masters and
> the masters from some of the other companies? Could they still be
> used?
> 
> Hello Tim, 
> 
> In the early 1950's, a number of 78 metal parts of Victor's was vinyl
> pressed before the factory and machines were destroyed.  When we call
> up the parts for reissue projects, sometimes we get them along with
> the metal. That is usually a happy day as they sound much quieter than
> positive metal and definitely shellac pressings.  I have inquired
> with a number of current pressing plants if they could press from the
> original negative masters, but no one has the correct plates to fit
> current vinyl pressing machines.  Some didn't even know what to do
> with the 78 that are still in there original shellac beds.  
> 
> I have a large project coming in next week that should include
> examples of all 78 formats we receive from the vault. I will try to
> get pictures to the membership through this list.  Perhaps someone
> here can suggest a new pressing technique.  I would love to press
> vinyl for these projects.  The metal can be a real pain in the a$sh
> to work from.  This big issue: cost. 
> 
> Best, 
> 
> Andreas 
> 
> On 2021-04-06 07:48, [log in to unmask] wrote: Hello
> Andreas, 
> 
> I understood that from the metal parts a 78 RPM vinyl disc could be
> pressed  from which a digital dub could be made. The vinyl would  be
> quieter than the shellacs originally pressed. Is that so? Or is it
> even difficult to press the 78 RPM vinyl because of the shortage of
> suitable plates? 
> 
> Rgds 
> 
> Tim Gillett
> 
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> Sent: Tue, 6 Apr 2021 07:24:48 -0500
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] [78-L] What happened to Columbia's masters and
> the masters from some of the other companies? Could they still be
> used?
> 
> Hello Eric, 
> 
> I receive original metal parts from Victor and Columbia catalog
> regularly from their vault for remastering jobs. Much of it still
> exists, but condition varies from pristine to unplayable. If you are
> looking to press new 78's from them, the biggest issue is getting the
> plates that fit their format. Those were all destroyed at the
> manufacturing plant and as far as my inquiries have gone, no one has
> the
> knowledge how to make new ones for modern pressing facilities. If you
> wish to license, email me directly and I can get you in touch with
> the
> correct people at Sony. 
> 
> Best, 
> 
> Andreas 
> 
> On 2021-04-06 06:57, ERIC BYRON wrote:
> 
>> Jay,
>> Thank you. I greatly appreciate your help.
>> Eric
>> On Tuesday, April 6, 2021, 07:47:49 AM EDT, Jay Bruder
> <[log in to unmask]> wrote: 
>> 
>> Here is a part of the answer from Allan Sutton's blog post.
>> 
>>
> https://78records.wordpress.com/2020/12/02/tales-from-the-vault-the-unauthorized-columbia-vinyl-pressings-1960/
>> 
>> Given the money and necessary permissions you can certainly make
> records from old metal parts if they are still in decent condition.
>> 
>> Jay
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
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> <[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of ERIC BYRON
>> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 6:29 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: [ARSCLIST] [78-L] What happened to Columbia's masters and
> the masters from some of the other companies? Could they still be
> used?
>> 
>> I know many of Victor's masters were destroyed when Victor
> demolishedits Camden warehouse. Does anybody know what happened to
> Columbia'smasters and the masters from some of the other companies? If
> these masterswere found, would it still be possible to make recordings
> from them?
>> 
>> Take care,
>> 
>> Eric  
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