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Hello Tim, 

In the early 1950's, a number of 78 metal parts of Victor's was vinyl
pressed before the factory and machines were destroyed.  When we call up
the parts for reissue projects, sometimes we get them along with the
metal. That is usually a happy day as they sound much quieter than
positive metal and definitely shellac pressings.  I have inquired with a
number of current pressing plants if they could press from the original
negative masters, but no one has the correct plates to fit current vinyl
pressing machines.  Some didn't even know what to do with the 78 that
are still in there original shellac beds.  

I have a large project coming in next week that should include examples
of all 78 formats we receive from the vault. I will try to get pictures
to the membership through this list.  Perhaps someone here can suggest a
new pressing technique.  I would love to press vinyl for these projects.
 The metal can be a real pain in the a$sh to work from.  This big issue:
cost. 

Best, 

Andreas 

On 2021-04-06 07:48, [log in to unmask] wrote:

> Hello Andreas, 
> 
> I understood that from the metal parts a 78 RPM vinyl disc could be pressed  from which a digital dub could be made. The vinyl would  be quieter than the shellacs originally pressed. Is that so? Or is it even difficult to press the 78 RPM vinyl because of the shortage of suitable plates? 
> 
> Rgds 
> 
> Tim Gillett
> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> 
>> From: [log in to unmask] 
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Cc: 
>> Sent: Tue, 6 Apr 2021 07:24:48 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] [78-L] What happened to Columbia's masters and the masters from some of the other companies? Could they still be used?
>> 
>> Hello Eric, 
>> 
>> I receive original metal parts from Victor and Columbia catalog
>> regularly from their vault for remastering jobs. Much of it still
>> exists, but condition varies from pristine to unplayable. If you are
>> looking to press new 78's from them, the biggest issue is getting the
>> plates that fit their format. Those were all destroyed at the
>> manufacturing plant and as far as my inquiries have gone, no one has the
>> knowledge how to make new ones for modern pressing facilities. If you
>> wish to license, email me directly and I can get you in touch with the
>> correct people at Sony. 
>> 
>> Best, 
>> 
>> Andreas 
>> 
>> On 2021-04-06 06:57, ERIC BYRON wrote:
>> 
>>> Jay,
>>> Thank you. I greatly appreciate your help.
>>> Eric
>>> On Tuesday, April 6, 2021, 07:47:49 AM EDT, Jay Bruder <[log in to unmask]> wrote: 
>>> 
>>> Here is a part of the answer from Allan Sutton's blog post.
>>> 
>>> https://78records.wordpress.com/2020/12/02/tales-from-the-vault-the-unauthorized-columbia-vinyl-pressings-1960/
>>> 
>>> Given the money and necessary permissions you can certainly make records from old metal parts if they are still in decent condition.
>>> 
>>> Jay
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List <[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of ERIC BYRON
>>> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 6:29 PM
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: [ARSCLIST] [78-L] What happened to Columbia's masters and the masters from some of the other companies? Could they still be used?
>>> 
>>> I know many of Victor's masters were destroyed when Victor demolishedits Camden warehouse. Does anybody know what happened to Columbia'smasters and the masters from some of the other companies? If these masterswere found, would it still be possible to make recordings from them?
>>> 
>>> Take care,
>>> 
>>> Eric
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