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Hello Andreas, 

Thanks for the information. Yes photos would be interesting. I'm still
not sure what function the plates serve. Are they adaptor plates to
allow for the different dimensions of the metal master? 

I remember the first time I hear a CD taken from a 78 vinyl pressing
from the metal master (Paul Robeson: Songs of Free Men, I think)  and
was impressed with the much lower noise floor than the shellac
pressing could have ever been.

Regards, Tim 

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Subject:Re: [ARSCLIST] [78-L] What happened to Columbia's masters and
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	Hello Tim, 

	In the early 1950's, a number of 78 metal parts of Victor's was vinyl
pressed before the factory and machines were destroyed.  When we call
up the parts for reissue projects, sometimes we get them along with
the metal. That is usually a happy day as they sound much quieter than
positive metal and definitely shellac pressings.  I have inquired
with a number of current pressing plants if they could press from the
original negative masters, but no one has the correct plates to fit
current vinyl pressing machines.  Some didn't even know what to do
with the 78 that are still in there original shellac beds.  

	I have a large project coming in next week that should include
examples of all 78 formats we receive from the vault. I will try to
get pictures to the membership through this list.  Perhaps someone
here can suggest a new pressing technique.  I would love to press
vinyl for these projects.  The metal can be a real pain in the a$sh
to work from.  This big issue: cost. 

	Best, 

	Andreas 

	On 2021-04-06 07:48, [log in to unmask] wrote: Hello
Andreas, 
  
I understood that from the metal parts a 78 RPM vinyl disc could be
pressed  from which a digital dub could be made. The vinyl would  be
quieter than the shellacs originally pressed. Is that so? Or is it
even difficult to press the 78 RPM vinyl because of the shortage of
suitable plates? 
  
Rgds 
  
Tim Gillett

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Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] [78-L] What happened to Columbia's masters and
the masters from some of the other companies? Could they still be
used?

 Hello Eric, 

 I receive original metal parts from Victor and Columbia catalog
 regularly from their vault for remastering jobs. Much of it still
 exists, but condition varies from pristine to unplayable. If you are
 looking to press new 78's from them, the biggest issue is getting the
 plates that fit their format. Those were all destroyed at the
 manufacturing plant and as far as my inquiries have gone, no one has
the
 knowledge how to make new ones for modern pressing facilities. If you
 wish to license, email me directly and I can get you in touch with
the
 correct people at Sony. 

 Best, 

 Andreas 

 On 2021-04-06 06:57, ERIC BYRON wrote:

 > Jay,
 > Thank you. I greatly appreciate your help.
 > Eric
 > On Tuesday, April 6, 2021, 07:47:49 AM EDT, Jay Bruder
<[log in to unmask]> wrote: 
 > 
 > Here is a part of the answer from Allan Sutton's blog post.
 > 
 >
https://78records.wordpress.com/2020/12/02/tales-from-the-vault-the-unauthorized-columbia-vinyl-pressings-1960/
 > 
 > Given the money and necessary permissions you can certainly make
records from old metal parts if they are still in decent condition.
 > 
 > Jay
 > 
 > -----Original Message-----
 > From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List
<[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of ERIC BYRON
 > Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 6:29 PM
 > To: [log in to unmask]
 > Subject: [ARSCLIST] [78-L] What happened to Columbia's masters and
the masters from some of the other companies? Could they still be
used?
 > 
 > I know many of Victor's masters were destroyed when Victor
demolishedits Camden warehouse. Does anybody know what happened to
Columbia'smasters and the masters from some of the other companies? If
these masterswere found, would it still be possible to make recordings
from them?
 > 
 > Take care,
 > 
 > Eric  
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