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+3. "We are not going to build bridges just so our people can live under them." - Bernie Sanders. This is a future-defining matter that's being decided right now in DC. Everyone in a profession or with influence, who wishes for a decent future, should be hounding congress for action; if necessary by holding their own bosses feet to the fire.

But, of course, I wish the best for Curtis and his colleagues.

Carl

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Two thumbs way up regarding the reply from Dennis Rooney.
My $0.02
CB
Corey Bailey Audio Engineering
www.baileyzone.net

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From: "Dennis Rooney" <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: 9/13/2021 9:53:29 AM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] [EXTERNAL] Re: [ARSCLIST] AV Archival Associate job at Texas Tech

>*Pace* Curtis Peoples who wrote "ARSC members should champion causes 
>when anyone or any institution is trying to remedy the problem in any way."
>I respectfully submit that hiring entry level personnel for such 
>critically important work unless they receive expert vetting, is a cure 
>worse than the disease. If qualified practitioners are not available at 
>a living wage (remembering that rent, groceries, and transportation are 
>not paid for with benefits), better to let the material rest 
>undisturbed until conditions improve. Careful storage of assets is at 
>least as valid as "doing something" with them. Otherwise, the 
>institution should consider contracting such work to qualified experts 
>with known track records who can treat those assets without hazard.
>
>DDR
>
>On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 12:39 PM Peoples, Curtis 
><[log in to unmask]>
>wrote:
>
>>  Although this is not my department at TTU, I do work closely with 
>> people  in the area. Here is why I defend the posting, and as a whole 
>> for the audio  archiving field.
>>
>>  Because of the pandemic, many institutions are struggling 
>> financially and  it is hard to maintain funding for many departments. 
>> It was not that long  ago that AV positions like this at various 
>> institutions did not even off  any where near $15.00 per hour, if such a position exists at all!.
>>
>>  In addition to the hourly wage, you also have to account for added  
>> benefits like medical, dental, and optical insurance provided for  
>> employees, as well vacation and sick leave. Further, there are 
>> professional  development opportunities that the institution often provides.
>>
>>  As has been discussed at many ARSC conferences, there is a crisis in 
>> the  audio and visual fields  discovering, organizing, describing, 
>> and migrating  analog materials from old carriers. ARSC members 
>> should champion causes  when anyone or any institution is trying to remedy the problem in any way.
>>
>>  The position posted here is an great entry level opportunity for a 
>> person  graduating from a program such as UCLA, or someone who has 
>> some audio video  experience looking to get into the archiving field.
>>
>>  Instead of condemning efforts, perhaps be thankful that people are 
>> trying  to save material that you or someone else  may one day need.
>>
>>  Curtis Peoples, Ph.D., Archivist
>>  Texas Tech University
>>  ARSC Assistant Conference Manager
>>
>>
>>
>>  Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for 
>> Windows
>>
>>  From: Gary A. 
>> Galo<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>  Sent: Monday, September 13, 2021 10:29 AM
>>  To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>  Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] [EXTERNAL] Re: [ARSCLIST] AV Archival 
>> Associate  job at Texas Tech
>>
>>  This email originated outside TTU. Please exercise caution< 
>>https://askit.ttu.edu/phishing>!
>>
>>
>>  Shai is being way too polite. Our local McDonald's is starting 
>> people at
>>  $15 an hour. Any institution should be embarrassed to advertise such 
>> a job  at that starting salary.
>>
>>  Best,
>>  Gary
>>
>>  Gary Galo
>>  Audio Engineer Emeritus
>>  The Crane School of Music
>>  SUNY at Potsdam, NY 13676
>>
>>  "Great art presupposes the alert mind of the educated listener."
>>  Arnold Schoenberg
>>
>>  "A true artist doesn't want to be admired, he wants to be believed."
>>  Igor Markevitch
>>
>>
>>  -----Original Message-----
>>  From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List < 
>>[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of Shai Drori
>>  Sent: Monday, September 13, 2021 10:59 AM
>>  To: [log in to unmask]
>>  Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ARSCLIST] AV Archival Associate job at 
>>Texas Tech
>>
>>  This message did not originate from SUNY Potsdam or one of its 
>> trusted  senders. Do not open attachments, click on links, or provide 
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>>
>>
>>  So I'm guessing at $15 per hour, the TTU is not really interested in  
>> knowledge, experience, know-how, and especially care for the assets. 
>> I have  voiced this not once, even for positions that did not involve 
>> A/V. There  was an ad not long ago for roughly the same pay grade 
>> with a minimum  requirement of MA. Good luck to all applicants.
>>
>>  Cheers
>>  Shai Drori
>>  Expert digitization services for Audio Video 3K scanning for film 
>>8mm-35mm
>>  Timeless Recordings Music Label
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>>
>>
>>  On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 5:33 PM Stroman, Elissa 
>> <[log in to unmask]>
>>  wrote:
>>
>>  > The Southwest Collection/Special Collections Library at Texas Tech
>>  > University is hiring an Archival Associate in our Audio Visual
>>  department.
>>  > The essential job functions include overseeing the digital 
>>migration
>>  > of analog audio, video, and film; processing A/V collections, 
>>creating
>>  > finding aids, and producing metadata for recordings; and 
>>administering
>>  > repair work and preventative maintenance for analog transfer equipment.
>>  >
>>  > This is a full-time benefits-eligible staff position located in
>>  > Lubbock Texas, starting at $15 per hour.
>>  >
>>  > A direct link to the hiring website and job description (position
>>  > 25524BR) can be found here:
>>  >
>>https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsjob
>>s.brassring.com%2FTGnewUI%2FSearch%2Fhome%2FHomeWithPreLoad%3Fpartne&d
>>ata=04%7C01%7Ccurtis.peoples%40TTU.EDU%7C98ba459bf86f4b4be0e908d976cb5
>>312%7C178a51bf8b2049ffb65556245d5c173c%7C0%7C0%7C637671437916771678%7C
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>>aWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=L3%2Bw8t6p1ykYSb9eaJthF%2FWeR1ex1b8BBg
>>nXGU0AJeI%3D&reserved=0
>>  > rid=25898&siteid=5635&PageType=JobDetails&jobid=656697
>>  > This Archival Associate position is also listed on the Texas Tech
>>  > library's employment page:
>>  > https://www.depts.ttu.edu/library/about/employment/
>>  >
>>  > Any questions can be directed to me.
>>  >
>>  > [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>  >
>>  >
>>  > Elissa Stroman, PhD (she/her)
>>  > Unit Manager in the Audio Visual Department at the Southwest
>>  > Collection/Special Collections Library Texas Tech University Box
>>  > 41041, Lubbock TX 79409
>>  > 806-834-0998
>>  > Editor, West Texas Historical Review
>>  >
>>
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