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The key to controlling the music on your ipad or iphone is to treat the music files as files, by not using iTunes (or Music as it's called now), but by actually using the actual files. If you look on the computer, itunes has its own folder, and the collection is stored, usually in the iTunes > iTunes Media > Music folder. Personally, all of my music is on an external hard drive, so that when I update my OS software, I can unplug it. I never sync with Apple Music, because I've heard that the Match feature will replace non-official/non-Apple store available recordings with whatever versions the store has. But if you copy those files to a folder (and you CAN use a cloud for that, which would be easier to access from multiple devices), and then use a free audio program for playback, such as VLC (which works on pretty much any device - I have it on my laptop and my iphone), VLC can access the library. It's not as user-friendly as iTunes, but it doesn't control your music files. As with any technology, based on users' experience and technophobia, mileage may vary, but it's an idea. I just recommend copying those files from the iTunes collection to an external drive (even a thumb drive) and backing it up and then uploading to the cloud using the user's account. You can always de-activate your device from the list once you're done if you're using your own computer. I used to use a program called X-Pod but I don't think that's a thing anymore. Check this article. https://www.instructables.com/Getting-music-off-an-iPod-using-Mac-OS-X/ Hope this helps. Also, if you find you need to get music OFF of an ipod, On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 12:01 PM Francesco Martinelli < [log in to unmask]> wrote: > Plenty of people buying small good cameras. And excellent HD players to > look for, like the FiiO catalogue. It's a thriving market. > fm > > Il giorno lun 1 nov 2021 alle ore 16:39 John Haley <[log in to unmask]> > ha > scritto: > > > Funny thing. Somebody recently just said to me "Oh I hear you're an > audio > > person..." and had the same problem. She had a large archive of I-Tunes > > on her I-Pod that she wants to just put on her I-Pad. Sounds easy, > right? > > Both Apple devices. As she explained, not easy at all. I was not able > to > > help. I suggested first looking for a You-Tube how-to on it, and > otherwise > > see if she could load all of the files onto a thumb drive or SD card, and > > just transfer the files. It ought to be that simple, right? Obviously, > it > > isn't. But there has to be a way. I was never into lossy formats and > now > > I am grateful for that. > > > > She also asked what device should she use to listen to music when she > goes > > out for a walk or a jog, and I said her cellphone. I don't do that > either, > > so I'm not much help. I have to assume that I-Pods are truly obsolete by > > now. It's like who buys small digital cameras now that we cam just use > our > > phones? Remember Walkmans and MP3 players? All gone. > > > > Best, > > John Haley > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 10:36 AM John Gledhill <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > > > Apple I-pad question > > > > > > I apologize for perhaps the wrong forum however, I am hoping someone > who > > > knows the answer can pass me his or her number and I will call offline. > > > > > > > > > > > > About 12 year ago I digitized a few hundred cassette tapes and records > > > for a gentleman after making him aware of online sources and yes he > > > wanted his cassettes / records digitized. > > > > > > Kept copies of all of the original 16 bit files and generated ACC or > m4v > > > and loaded the files to one of those old brick ipods with a 75 Gig HD > > > (audio takes 45 gig) and a sleek nano device > > > > > > I used I-tunes at the time and was dismayed by the way the ipods messed > > > up (hashed, and hacked up the file names). > > > > > > Fast-forward a decade and more. Customer who is old is still alive and > > > very active. He has a good sense of humour. He brought me his old ipods > > > and a brand new ipad and wants the audio loaded to the ipad and > > > eventually his iphone 13. > > > > > > Should be a no brainer. Except now we have cloud storage. He already > has > > > other music and albums on his ipad (and they don’t show up when > > > connected to a pc with itunes). I guess I would have to sign in to his > > > account? > > > > > > My son also warned me about something called “syncing” where Apple > > > decides to obliterate material on your device if you load material from > > > a local drive. I told him there is no way a company could do this and > be > > > taken seriously let along convince people to buy their product. > > > > > > Silly me. Even when I turn off automatic syncing in itunes and think > > > about moving audio to the I-pad I see warning about only being able to > > > be sync’d to one source. I stop at this point, as the material already > > > on the ipad is not mine to erase. > > > > > > Also worrisome was a pop-up about “trusted device” and only being > > > allowed 5. I have used up two for him so far. > > > > > > > > > A google search leads me to a couple of software applications that > claim > > > to allow me to add music to the ipad without erasing what is already > > there. > > > > > > I wonder. > > > > > > What computer OS would ever expect you to buy a separate programme to > > > simply copy a file. What am I missing? > > > > > > Even if I succeed, will this gentleman undo everything next time he > > > accesses music on-line? > > > > > > I really do not want to load 45 Gig to some cloud server so he can sync > > > to that. This just seems ridiculous when the material is already on a > > > local drive.. > > > > > > Ques) If I did put 45G on the icloud from a PC and used this load his > > > ipad then what happens when he signs onto itunes from his iphone13 on a > > > cellular network. Does he unwittingly have 45G of cellular network > > > traffic arriving? > > > > > > If anyone knows of a way to simply place audio files on an ipad (from a > > > PC) so they will stay there, be playable, and will not erase what is > > > already present then please pass me your telephone number. > > > > > > P.S. The old brick of an ipod he had with the older battery technology > > > and a hard drive was recharged and still works a week later. > > > > > > The very sleek nano ipod he passed me was charged for a day and last 2 > ½ > > > min and now won’t recharge. Improved design for who’s benefit. 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