It seems to us that there are several issues at stake in the discussion of <did> which need to be teased apart in order to come to any conclusions. Here are our reading of, and opinions on, the issues: 1) The <did> definition The definition of <did> as "identifying fundamental descriptive information needed to identify the component" makes assumptions about what is "fundamental" and "needed to identify," but does not explain the rationale for those assumptions. The implication is that the <did> tag is intended to dictate or require what "fundamental" information is needed to identify a component or unit. However, as it stands now, the information permitted in <did> is not required, indicating it is not "fundamental" but rather "desired." 2) <scopecontent> As the definition of the <did> stands, the debate rests on determining if <scopecontent> is fundamental identifying information. There seems to be the feeling that because it is a summary, it is too general to be used as an identifier. This, however, is dependent on the use of <scopecontent> and, since there is not a standard for the content of the tag, the use will vary. Since <scopecontent> pertains to a specific component and may contain detailed information about its contents, it seems as if it could act and frequently does act in an identifying capacity. We would prefer not to put information about the contents of the component in <note> within <did>. Because <note> seems to be such a broadly-defined tag, with so many possible applications, we start to lose the control over data, the very control that is the reason we are marking up the finding aids. We use <note> elsewhere in <c> for different kinds of information, such as location of research copies. If <did> can include <note>, further, its seems it could also accommodate <scopecontent>, which, as we read it, has a more specific purpose in describing or identifying the information component than <note>. 3) <physdesc> and <scopecontent> - The discussion of <scopecontent> within <did> raises the matter of overlap between <physdesc> and <scopecontent>. Often information coded within <scopecontent> includes physical description. In the example cited by Leslie Morris, for instance, "newsclippings and photographs" is in <scopecontent>, but could also be in <physdesc>. Frequently information regarding physical description will have been written into <scopecontent>. Because of this overlap, it seems logical that if <physdesc> is allowed within <did> then <scopecontent> might also be appropriate. 4) Identification v. Summary The debate between the <did> defined role as fundamental identifying information and its potential role as summary overview may not be as far apart as the discussion suggests. In both cases, the <did> exists to provide information about a specific component or unit. If <scopecontent> were allowed within the <did> all the information within the <did> would still serve to identify the component, but would simply offer more description. It seems, again, that the problem stems from the difficulty in defining "needed" and "fundamental." Perhaps, as others have suggested, the solution lies in changing the definition of <did> so it can accommodate these two relatively similar roles. 5) Is <did> necessary Kris Kiesling has suggested making <did> optional. We, at least, would like to continue to bundle the descriptive elements together, as it helps organize the information. This desire to keep the descriptive information together, in fact, leads us to believe <scopecontent> should be within <did>; otherwise this important description floats between <did> and the next component level. Catherine Johnson Project Director Kate Culkin SGML Project Specialist Dance Heritage Coalition