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Original text follows: --------------------- --simple boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ACSII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: from rs8.loc.gov by library.sos.state.il.us (ccMail Link to SMTP R8.00.01) ; Wed, 22 Oct 97 19:22:32 -0600 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from rs8 (rs8.loc.gov [140.147.248.8]) by rs8.loc.gov (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id UAA37978; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 20:04:36 -0400 Received: from RS8.LOC.GOV by RS8.LOC.GOV (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8b) with spool id 219321 for [log in to unmask]; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 20:04:33 -0400 Received: from index.umdl.umich.edu ([log in to unmask] [141.212.2.201]) by rs8.loc.gov (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id TAA77730 for <[log in to unmask]>; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 19:54:32 -0400 Received: from localhost (blandis@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by index.umdl.umich.edu (8.8.7/8.8.3) with SMTP id TAA12970 for <[log in to unmask]>; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 19:54:30 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender: [log in to unmask] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 19:54:28 -0400 Reply-To: Encoded Archival Description List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Encoded Archival Description List <[log in to unmask]> From: Bill Landis <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: (last minute) DTD feedback Comments: To: Encoded Archival Description List <[log in to unmask]> To: Multiple recipients of list EAD <[log in to unmask]> In-Reply-To: <v02130507b073a98d5c52@[128.32.252.42]> On Wed, 22 Oct 1997, Richard Rinehart wrote: > > In using the EAD in our museum we have come upon one suggestion for the > next version of the DTD: to add "label" and "source" attributes to the > PHYSFACET element. I've emailed about this before, but wanted to simplify > the thought to just one clear suggestion. > > These attributes are already available in the PHYSDESC element, but could > be just as useful in the more granular PHYSFACET element for describing > collections with detailed physical descriptions like those in museums (and > it sounds like many archives). If for some reason, adding a "source" > attribute to PHYSFACET is not a good strategy, perhaps allowing one to use > the "source" attribute of the PHYSDESC element to inherit downward to apply > to all the "label" attributes in the contained PHYSFACETs would work, but > the former model seemed to be more straightforward. Just wanted to clarify, since I haven't worked with the <physfacet> element at all. First, in looking at the tag library, it appears that the "source" attribute can be supplied on both the <physdesc> and <physfacet> elements and that the range of values is the same for both usages. Second, I wonder if by the nature of its hierarchical containment, the attribute information on the <physdesc> tag isn't automatically inherited by any <physfacet> elements contained within it? So that <physdesc source="aat"> <physfacet>facet1</physfacet> <physfacet>facet2</physfacet> </physdesc> necessarily implies that the source for both facet1 and facet2 is "aat". The only reason one would need a source attribute on a <physfacet> in the above scenario would be to note exceptions to the source declared on the <physdesc> element, as in <physdesc source="aat"> <physfacet>facet1</physfacet> <physfacet>facet2</physfacet> <physfacet source="lctgm">facet3</physfacet> </physdesc> Does this address part of Richard Rinehart's question? As for the label attribute, which is currently only available on <physdesc> and not on <physfacet>...perhaps Richard could give us an example? I'm not sure I really understand how this attribute would be used by someone describing a museum item (or any other item for that matter!) I guess, based on the above examples, that currently if one puts a label attribute onto the <physdesc> tag then all <physfacet>s contained within that <physdesc> would inherit that label information. Are there examples of cases in which one or more of the <physfacet>s would need an exception noted to that label? Thanks for the clarification! ________ [Bill Landis] ___________________________ [[log in to unmask]] Graduate School of Education & Information Studies University of California, Los Angeles --simple boundary-- --simple boundary--